Who likes the PBE Trinity Focre Changes?

Toastersaot·May 23, 2016·2 votes·662 views

I've already made a post about Gangplank getting screwed by the new Trinity Force, but I wanted to ask everyone about what you think of the PBE Changes. I think (in mysilver 5 brains) that it's basically better for Jax and Irelia, but a massive nerf/play style shift for Gangplank, as well as possibly Hecarim. Nasus also will HAVE to go IBG, although most players already take IBG. So please vote in the poll below.

And Pray it doesn't break Ezreal with the CDR and Attack Speed Buff. But hey, it could be healthier than pre-nerf Blue Ezreal. (Remember I'm Silver 4, so if I'm wrong you know why, but if I'm right I deserve Challenjour)

6 Comments

Reaper ReviewMay 23, 20163 votes

We all know it's a nerf/shift for Gangplank. Basically EVERY thread about the Trinity Force changes has been almost solely about Gangplank.

Which, honestly, is usually a sign of poor design when a champion is balanced around a particular item's existence (Vladimir and Will of the Ancients, for example).

ParoeMay 23, 20162 votes

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We all know it's a nerf/shift for Gangplank. Basically EVERY thread about the Trinity Force changes has been almost solely about Gangplank.

Which, honestly, is usually a sign of poor design when a champion is balanced around a particular item's existence (Vladimir and Will of the Ancients, for example).

Indeed. A champion balanced or designed around an item is terrible design, unless the item is unique such as in viktors case, but even that causes him a lot of problems because riot uses it as an excuse to nerf him.

@topic Trinity force used to be used on: Darius Diana (AD) Fiora Gangplank (pre-rework) Irelia Jayce Nasus Pantheon Trundle Yorick Jax

You notice something about all of these champions? theyre AD casters or fighters, in GPs case, he was either.

AD casters do not use crit. Fighters do not use crit.

Trinity was, originally, a fighter item and NOT an ADC item. This change is giving it BACK to its intended, and original, users. Most of whom utilize attack speed to good effect.

FatesDefilerMay 23, 20161 votes

or don't pray because there's nothing to pray to and religion is a joke. don't bring religion onto forums.

AmarajahMay 23, 20161 votes

Irelia Jax Udyr Kayle Gnar

Basically, fighters that like AS

BluePolarizerMay 23, 20161 votes

It is a gigantic boost for Hecarim.

20% crit for a low AS champ like Hecarim is useless since it does essentially nothing.

20% CDR makes it so that you get your 40% CDR power spike much earlier and 40% AS makes lane Hecarim with Fervor much more powerful. It also gives you a faster autoattack animation which for junglers like Hecarim is make or break, since every auto he gets while the enemy is feared is important.

ThanetioreMay 23, 20161 votes

Agree with Paroe: That Tri Force included zeal always felt pretty random and was the least desirable component for many champions, since most relied heavily on Phage and Sheen.

The increased CDR is perfect for the intended champion pool, however I think it's strange that the AS is one of the most dominant stats now. 40% is very high and in my mind, Tri Force is not necessarily for Champions that are all about squeezing in as many aas in as possible.

I would like to see 30% coupled with a slightly lower price - and since they changed stinger anyway, the component should cost 1000 for 30% AS and 10% CDR. Something like that.