Why Ap Items need a cap

Bultz··1 votes·1,325 views

So I was recently playing a game of ascension and it was against Diana, ahri, and akali. at about 15 minutes into the game, I was one hit by the enemy Akali, and was just amazed and like wtf what just happened? Then I began thinking, what do Diana, Ahri, Akali, Katarina, etc. have income? Katrina is on a perma ban list atm btw. And the rest deserve to be. Then it hit me, they all are what Yasuo use to be. I don't know how many remember the days Yasuo was built with AP items, but those who do can tell you he rolled through the enemy team as if they were butter.

Now we have basically the same thing happening again. I mean Diana, Akali, Katarina, and Ahri all have huge amounts of mobility, like Yasuo but theirs isn't minion or champion reliant. Each one of them has the move sets of AD champions, but are built AP, like Yasuo was once. They are all speed champions, meaning their attacks are instant. They can build enough ap to do real damage instantly and roll through the teams, and build items such as life steal to counter any chance of being outplayed.

Take into account Yasuo. Yes he is super mobile, but with no minions in a 1v1 he falls short, especially against these four whose dashes, shield, teleports, etc. are not reliant on there being someone to run too, a build up of a energy bar, nor long cool downs. Plus the fact that they have much higher defenses then yasuo, better shield, stronger dashes, etc. doesn't help.

Now imagine this for a minute. Unnerf yasuo. Bring back his his health which was removed a while back. Boost his mr and armor, like he once had. Make him ap. Add a longer shield. What do you get? You get a super broken champion who will roll 5v1 through any team. Now take that into account and realize that's what Katarina, Ahri, Diana. and Akali are. Buffed Yasuo type champions, who can one hit you, are fairly good, or at least better than Yasuo's early game and late game.

So why when Yasuo was so broken people complained, but no one cries about the rest of them? I mean At this point with magic items having received huge amounts of cdr, having up 120 ap, having a lot of effects on their items (slows, stuns, etc.), what makes it okay for these type of champions to still be allowed to run loose. Katrina has near 100% ban rate on every game mode i've played so far.

There needs to be a power cap on ability items, just as there is on ad items. Max of 85 ability power. I mean how is it fair the highest ad item is 70/75 at most and the highest ap item is 120 and you have many ap champions, like veigar, being so op that he can literally one hit someone if he's played by a good player.

Imagine making Yasuo or other champions AP compatible again, now tell me why is okay for others to still have this ability?

18 Comments

Moesnd5 votes

This post just screams "dumbass"

yksi3 votes

Shocker, Katarina still shits on people who have no idea how to play the game

Caítlyn2 votes

Then Yasuo pressed W and all these champs deal ZERO damage.

Keep posting more threads. These are comedy gold.

Bultz1 votes

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Keep posting more threads. These are comedy gold.

Keep replying, you're a complete idiot who adds nothing to threads.

Caítlyn1 votes

I took a long time to make a comment on your other "buff yasuo" thread and you ignored all the good advice I gave you.

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Bultz2 votes

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I took a long time to make a comment on your other "buff yasuo" thread and you ignored all the good advice I gave you.

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As far as i remember you trolled then became a cancer on the thread so i ignored you.

Caítlyn3 votes

So because I disagree with your opinion = cancer?

Guess what bro. Katarina is not OP. Youre just bad.

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Dangerous Man1 votes

You played the unbalanced game mode Ascension, and you're calling champions broken because of how well some champions did in it? Also, a 15 minute game of Ascension is like a 30 minute Summoner's Rift game.

Bultz1 votes

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You played the unbalanced game mode Ascension, and you're calling champions broken because of how well some champions did in it? Also, a 15 minute game of Ascension is like a 30 minute Summoner's Rift game.

I'm calling them broken because it doesn't happen in just ascension. Play a game with a halfway decent Akali and she will get fed, even if she loses her lane, it's almost assured.

Dangerous Man1 votes

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I'm calling them broken because it doesn't happen in just ascension. Play a game with a halfway decent Akali and she will get fed, even if she loses her lane, it's almost assured.

Even if she loses her lane, she's screwed by the way.

Also her literal weakness is pre-6 ganks.

Death by Glamour1 votes

Better just to nerf problem champs rather than nerf every mage in the game?

Bultz1 votes

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Better just to nerf problem champs rather than nerf every mage in the game?

Look at what they did to ekko, another one with similar issues, who can be ap, ad, or tank. they nerfed him, but he is still super cancerous.

Death by Glamour2 votes

You are going off on a tangent now. Is your issue with the damamge or the kits.

Hethalean1 votes

They wanted Yasuo to build Crit and AD. Not AP. That's why they took AP away from him really. Much like AP Yi. Yes, they can blow people up late game. However, every single AP champ you listed is an assassin. AKA that's their job. Blow people up. Yasuo is less assassiny.

Pierce The Veal1 votes

Go home SupermanRisen you're drunk.

Doopliss71 votes

i dont think yasuo should be buffed... but i kinda do agree with kat, leblanc, akali and maybe lux with their cooldowns and damage being way too much for me to handle ( side note: i kinda want them to buff talon a bit since i never really see him anymore and it feels bad man : ^( Talon item 3070 )

Doopliss71 votes

and if anything to solve some ap damage problems i think they should add some more Mr items since there is only spirit and banshee ( and ig hexdrinker ) while there being many more armor choices. that being said i also would like a bit more Mpen items ( since there are sooo many armor pen items ) and maybe make liandry's a little more worth to buy over void staff or something, since almost everyone just gets the staff and boots unless you're Teemo or Malzahar i guess. i dunno :p

Abyssphere1 votes

I mean, you clearly don't know what you're talking about. AP assassins build life steal now?

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