Please don't buff Jinx

Chief Mayonnaise··136 votes·5,392 views

Take it from a Jinx main, she is doing perfectly fine, if not above average. I'd rather see her stay put than buffed only to be nerfed in an important part of her kit later. These Jinx buffs may not be that significant, but I don't want them to become an excuse to nerf her later.

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OnanThaMan22 votes

Riot: "We can't hear you, put with her with the other 2, Riven Brand "

3ofGot40ve24 votes

Riot: We can hear you, but we are going to act like we can't for unknown purposes. Put her with the other 2, Riven Brand

FTFY

Velzard of Koz3 votes

Yoy, Brand. Looking forward these changes for ARAM. As If he wasn't already annoying.

Bagguette4 votes

Ok brand is fucking insane are they really buffing him is this a joke?

Velzard of Koz1 votes

So far the changes were reverted but they may return in another cycle.

Dr Poro9 votes

"Last patch we buffed Zyra who was already having 51% winrate and people didn't quit because of it. Let's see how far we can push this."

TheOvermind11 votes

"But no one Is playing her in the lcs" Well how about u nerf Ashe Jhin and sivir ? Oh you already did that ? Then how about you wait, before you break a champion .

Wimbledofy1 votes

when was sivir nerfed?

ShadowParker1 votes

On pbe

Wimbledofy1 votes

:( rip

tacofacefart7 votes

she can be dealt with pretty easy, a buff is probably good.

Treune817 votes

Jinx doesn't need buff Riot please.52% win rate and 15% play rate.

kuzzy472 votes

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Jinx doesn't need buff Riot please.52% win rate and 15% play rate.

53% BRO

MunchCrunchLunch6 votes

idk why would they buff her at all. I mean her ult chunks even tanks with missing health bs.

Bots Whilst High34 votes

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idk why would they buff her at all. I mean her ult chunks even tanks with missing health bs.

I mean it's an execute working as intended.. It doesn't chunk unless you're already almost dead

Volcanuz7 votes

Don't know why you got downvoted for the truth.

This just brings her ult more in line for other options. Now it will be viable to early or mid fight fire the ult like other ADC's can.

Jinx is that ONE ADC who hardly ever gets to use her ult unless to steal or secure a kill for or from someone. I feel like a dick using it some times even though i am the ADC..

crippler381 votes

how much hp do they generally have for you to ult? I know that a garen can kill a villain from half but other than that I don't know how other executes should be used effectively. When is the best time to ult with her?

(oh and veigar does like 1k damage even at max hp so his might as well not be an execute)

Chief Mayonnaise1 votes

My rule of thumb in the early game is about 300 hp. Usually if they are at that point or lower, it'l kill them. Bear in mind that as you rank the ability up, the %missing health damage increases as well.

Volcanuz1 votes

Depends on their items and health. If they are tanky, i would fire more around 20-25% for a kill blow late game with 3 item spike.

If they are a squish at level 2 of the skill you should be able to kill them at 30-45% depending on your item choice. As i go IE>Hurri>Blood i do it more at 40% but most other builds will probably go at 30% on squishies.

People forget that the rocket has its own base damage and don't include it so they wait a lot longer before firing.

A good tip though is use it as a fight starts if you are at range, It can really turn the tide for your team mate who is in the fight and still land you a high % gold assist as depending on the stage the rocket hits in the fight you do insane damage with it. You need to not be selfish with skills like her ult or ashes ult, most just use it for them self and that just defeats the purpose of the ability.

Papa Slothy1 votes

I feel like the minimum damage should be raised so it can be combined into a short-medium range combo

Volcanuz1 votes

It was raised.

Papa Slothy1 votes

oh, cool then

Bots Whilst High4 votes

Considering botlane is nothing but a 4 man clown Fiesta after about the first 4 waves I'm down for any buffs to my jinxy

Bladerunner77773 votes

riot buffing hard-carry hypercarries is bad news for Solo Q

Depárt1 votes

Riot incentivizing 5v2s bottom at 4 minutes because of that defenseless turret first gold was bad news for adcs that are on the receiving team of that cancer.

Skias3 votes

Should just put through the outlier nerfs and let them sit and see how things even out. No need to buff all these champs.

Lock On3 votes

"Take it from a Jinx main," really? You're high silver with mediocre stats on Jinx, hardly passable as any sort of expert, wouldn't you say?

LatetotheRace5 votes

Is he the best player? No. Is he more than knowledgeable on jinx? Likely more than you or I. Do a lot of smart players know what he's saying to be true? Damn straight.

So chill.

Lock On3 votes

I see other low elo "mains" downvoted me, how cute. You honestly think someone of his skill level who spams Jinx more than others is necessarily more knowledgeable? Is the bronze 5 Yasuo "main" with 400 ranked games knowledgeable too? It's like trusting your college freshman pre-med student to operate on someone. Please.

LatetotheRace1 votes

Now see, a big reason I give this person credit for what they're saying is because it's right. I personally know first hand that jinx is in a solid place right now, as she's weak early but nearly unstoppable late game. (Reasonably unstoppable that is, assassins can still kill her so don't even.) Thats how her design and kit works, so riot trying to change that would be foolhardy. Also your last little analogy is retarded. I'm simply asking for the opinion and giving it some warrant or respect. I'm not asking this person to personally balance or rework the champion.

Lock On2 votes

I'm calling the OP out on the line I already pointed out, to just trust him/her because "I main it." I never once gave my opinion on the change itself, I only found it nauseating to hear this "main" nonsense going around as a pseudo sense of credibility (like EnergyStar labels.) Note again, because the lot of you seem pretty retarded to me in terms of reading comprehension, I was referring to the OPs cringeworthy comment "take it from a Jinx main." I Am Not Agreeing/Disagreeing With The Changes. Ya'll got it yet? Hopefully. I can never take anyone seriously anymore when they say that because it's such a diluted term nowadays.

zlumpy2 votes

Just dont turn her into another MF. Don't want anymore walking ult adc.

Only Play Darius4 votes

MF has plenty of damage outside her ult

Volcanuz2 votes

Wish i could upvote this more.

People build her for her ult only then wonder why the rest of her fails in fights.

Princess Íncest1 votes

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Wish i could upvote this more.

People build her for her ult only then wonder why the rest of her fails in fights.

She does damage besides her ult? This is news to me

Great Muta1 votes

Her Q's early are super strong.

Maszii1 votes

only is you execute properly

DænariusKhølerin1 votes

Her Q can do almost 200 damage bouncing off a minion at level 1, and that's without killing it.

Depárt1 votes

Does less than that WHEN killing a minion, fuck outta here

Volcanuz1 votes

Her E can hurt even early if they stand to trade, it also slows. Her Auto can be reset on a target if you know how to target switch (hit support, then hit ADC, then Hit support - or you can use it on a minion) which also helps when her W is activated as each time her passive procs her W gets another second of use. Her Q hits like a truck if you know how to position it and can force supps or even adc away from their minion. Which is why the MF+Blitz combo lane is so damn strong.

Her ult is great. But the rest of her kit if you use her properly is just godlike. Of course not on the levels of the fan favorite champs though and all it takes is 1 or 2 good bans and she is much less potent in high ELO games. But still..

Depárt1 votes

Kappa

IPromiseTomorrow2 votes

Riti don't buff her so I can play her! I'm talking on the behalf of all Jinx Mains.

Jofeyy2 votes

I dont want it to be like Ashe all over again.

Shes doing fine lets buff her Q a bit.

A month later...

#NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF

coreym111 votes

I am Jinx main and I love Jinx the way she and I can see how putting her in the spotlight with a buff also puts her in the spotlight for being nerfed. However how are you hearing of these Jinx buffs? Can you link it to me? Or are you talking about the buffs that came with the new season? Anyway, If she is gonna get buffed again it's probably so she can be back in meta (played in the lcs) and it would be fun to see the pros play her. If she gets buffed again it's gonna be like season 3 where she was one of the most played Adc's than nerfed. I think she would end up back up in the spot she is now when her time to shine if over. If they bring her back into meta. But yea I am fine the way Jinx is and don't understand why she needs to be buffed to be put back in the meta. Honestly I people would appreciate her how good she is now. That said, I'm still excited to see what her buffs will be if she gets buffed again.

Cremepie3 votes

Its on Surrender@20

Here's a link on the house: http://www.surrenderat20.net/2016/08/89-pbe-update.html gotta scroll to near bottom for jinx buff, its pretty small imo

DænariusKhølerin1 votes

Max ratio 50% AD increase doesn't seem that small.

Dr Poro1 votes

Jinx has only 5th highest winrate of all ADCs. While #1, #3 and #6 are getting nerfed, she obviously need a buff to surpass #2 and #4 who have 1/5 and 2/5 of Jinx' popularity respectively. /s

No seriously, I do not understand why they would buff a top tier ladder champion. I understand nerfing a bottom tier one if they're still oppressive in LCS, but why does Jinx need to be played by the pros? With nerfs to the current popular LCS adcs, I think she will be more appealing anyways.

WHY BUFF A 53% WINRATE CHAMPION???

My favourite ADCs are Ashe, Jinx and Kog'maw. I'm mastery 5 on Ashe and Jinx, they're the ones that I usually play when forced adc. I agree with the Ashe nerfs because she's just too popular right now but I strongly disagree with the Jinx buff. She's already quite popular and really strong. Don't put her next to Riven in the permaban list (which probably won't happen because most people don't give a fuck about OP marksmen.)

MajesticWindbag1 votes

We might be setting up for a Vayne/Jinx worlds meta with these buffs. If that is the reason, I don't mind because those champions are hype in LCS.

ABSINTHEged1 votes

You know you have a problem when people who main a champion beg you not to buff it.

Riot. Please.

Baron Perenolde1 votes

I agree, she's pretty strong at the moment. Her midgame is terrifying if she positions well and has a frontline.

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