Why can Aphelios Out-DPS every champion with Chakrams

Elohaven·12/18/2019, 1:00:23 PM·48 votes·18,107 views

Gets PTA stacked in less than second, than proceeds to burst you down. And it applies on hit-effects AND HIGH BURST WHEN STACKED WHICH IS EASY.

AND HE HAS A GLOBAL TARGET, POINT-CLICK ABILITY TO CHUNK YOU OF YOUR HEALTH THAT YOU CAN ONLY COUNTER BY STAYING OUT OF THE ABILITY RANGE (which is bigger than his range).

It's beyond absurd at this point.

Chakrams need to completely gutted and changed. His globals need to be addressed too.

Edit: For the global statement, i was talking about Calibrum which is excessively oppressing when he's ahead. Also, he can out-DPS melee champions with Crescendum (chakrams). His attack speed with them shouldn't influence travel speed. It should influence how fast they hit the target like everyone else or he needs to do significantly reduced damage after the first chakram is thrown. The attacks also shouldn't apply any on-hit effects. He's a range champion that can 1v1 Yasuo, bruisers, and even assassins if they can't burst him in one auto. His Infernum (flamethrower) procs on Runaan bolts as well which I also believe should be removed. The damage is too high and the width of the effect is too wide to proc on other chains of shots from Infernum. It feels like Vayne having her W proc with Runaans due to how high his damage is. Jinx's rockets are fair since they stop at the first targets hit and she doesn't have any strengths against melee champions.

Edit 2: I highly suggest you all read the comments. Good points about the game and outside of it have been raised. Let's keep this discussion going.

79 Comments

Fisher No Chains12/18/2019, 1:47:04 PM40 votes

Questions I have after playing against Aphelios for 10 or more games:

  1. why can he clear the wave almost as efficiently as Sivir?
  2. Why does he have Caitlyn’s range at level 1?
  3. why can he lay turrets like Heimerdinger?
  4. why can he cc people like Xayah without having to set up feathers?

And most importantly, why can he finish you from 2000 range at level 6?

This champion does too many things. I get it, he’s immobile and all, but he has a tool for every situation and needs some serious tuning.

Probably the most broken release ever, it doesn’t help that after several games I still don’t know how he works and how is secondary weapon affects his kit.

Posui Gart12/18/2019, 3:22:21 PM21 votes

GLOBAL TARGET, POINT-CLICK ABILITY

Excuse me?

Ashe mage AD12/18/2019, 1:04:55 PM21 votes

As much as I want to approve of Riot and just enjoy the damn game they always manage to trigger me like each other patch. And if it's not me it's someone else out there I'm sure. Change, after change, after change. What does change accomplish? Among other things it divides people, just look at this community lmao. Plus, they're not addressing a series of issues that lead to a very negative experience all around for any potential new players, at this rate not that many will stick around even if they consistently try the game out and slowly the veterans will get tired of it as well. The 1st moba that breaks the ice after this point onwards has a serious potential to hurt League imo. And I might be slightly biased about it but there's nothing that triggers me more then when they go beyond a certain threshold in updates frequency or volume and sure, some people might even be excited about them instead but I'll argue anyone that steps up to the plate that too many changes in too short of a time frame are anything but healthy and they generate a lot of frustrations and toxicity in a medium that already has plenty to go around as is.

The thigh guy12/18/2019, 4:27:53 PM13 votes

Just add him to the list of the garbage ct has dumped onto the rift.

Hi im 1212/18/2019, 1:40:44 PM13 votes

AND HE HAS A GLOBAL TARGET, POINT-CLICK ABILITY TO CHUNK YOU OF YOUR HEALTH THAT YOU CAN ONLY COUNTER BY STAYING OUT OF THE ABILITY RANGE

what the fuck did you just say lmao, but yeah aphelios is busted as fuck and the nerfs are going to do nothing at all

The King Diamond12/18/2019, 9:05:14 PM12 votes

Aphelios is new Akali, Irelia and Pyke. U can't rly nerf him cuz problem lies deep inside his kit and design. That's sad.

FrancisMuni12/18/2019, 7:35:44 PM11 votes

Because Riot (and especially CT) loves to create edgy champs with flashy mechanics than can right-click the opponent into death. Yasuo looks also really cool and even difficult, until you notice that he can misuse every single one of his abilities and still have kill potential.

Wizard Blaze12/18/2019, 10:04:30 PM9 votes

its one of these CertainlyToxic obnoxious champion designs

Hvsao12/18/2019, 3:49:08 PM3 votes

Yeah champ needs to be toned back. But, he definitely has notable weakness being that he does not have an escape and will almost always die if CC'd into burst damage.