Teemo Support, we need to not allow troll picks in support role in ranked

Failog·Nov 25, 2016·8 votes·4,115 views

Thousands of ranked matches....and not once has it ever resulted my my team winning. These people...its like they are mentally handicapped. Teemo support deprives the team of either a tanky support, useful CC, or healing. Teemo does none of that.

Can we just get rid of the support issue? When someone is assigned support and they try to pick Tryndamere or Teemo, or Yasou....the game should just not let them. An ADC could do well at top or mid or as jungle, mid and top and jungle can be handled interchangeably by many champions. But support needs a support champion. Trying to be cute and different doesn't work, and we know it doesn't work. You can PROVE it doesn't work. I am so sick of these trolls.

77 Comments

Maximum MordeNov 25, 201611 votes

Teemo is a fun support. I pick him to counter Bard and put mushrooms on all Bard chimes.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoNov 25, 20167 votes

LMAO what an asshole ... that would be sooo annoying as bard

[zombie-brand-clap]

Maximum MordeNov 25, 20164 votes

I've tilted bards off the face of the earth doing this lol.

hunterspecNov 25, 20163 votes

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Teemo is a fun support. I pick him to counter Bard and put mushrooms on all Bard chimes.

not fun for adc when teemo steals all your kills.

Dasdi96Nov 25, 20162 votes

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not fun for adc when teemo steals all your kills.

Its even less fun when youre adc and your support cant peel the enemy assassin off of you because they have ZERO cc.

RákãñNov 25, 20161 votes

You're a magnificent genus. I gotta to that when I see bard next game I get.

LiveYiOrDieHardDec 1, 20168 votes

OP is silver 3.

Meanwhile i win 50%+ of my AP support Nasus games in platinum elo.

If you have never won a game with a non-meta support on your team, that means there's a 99% chance you're one of those little dickwads who instantly hardcore trolls his teammates for picking non-meta and then blames them for your feeding ass that I hate so very much.

FailogDec 6, 20163 votes

My rank has nothing to do with the points I made.

Also this is one of 5 accounts.

Grow up and grow a brain. In the long run teemo support doesn't stack up. You may win some, you might get some boss Teemo who kicks ass, but in the long run, in different champion and team comps, teemo support won't play out as well as other supports. I'm sorry math and logic upset you.

LiveYiOrDieHardDec 6, 20167 votes

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My rank has nothing to do with the points I made.

Also this is one of 5 accounts.

Grow up and grow a brain. In the long run teemo support doesn't stack up. You may win some, you might get some boss Teemo who kicks ass, but in the long run, in different champion and team comps, teemo support won't play out as well as other supports. I'm sorry math and logic upset you.

"Force my teammates to play the champions I want them to play because that gives me the best winrate"

"Let's just ignore the fact that a few of them will be screwed over by NOT BEING ALLOWED to play the champion that suits them best"

"As long as my own personal winrate is maximized that's all that matters!"

Math and logic huh? Here's some logic for you. Your rank is determined by your play. Stop focusing on the other 9 people in your game. They will change every game and they don't matter. So stop acting like ranked needs to cater to your own personal world view of what's "best" or else it "shouldn't be allowed".

HyperiönDec 1, 20166 votes

Teemo was designed for the support role. He has free wards that hit like a truck. Not to mention a 2 second blind.

I see it all the time. it might not be a tank or heale, or leona 2.0. He is useful, you just are too ignorant to see it.

FailogDec 1, 20162 votes

I kept an open mind during my first FEW THOUSAND RANKED Matches. After never seeing it work out all right, am I suppose to still think, despite evidence that its useful?

HyperiönDec 1, 20165 votes

The thing about teemo is that the people who play him most of the time troll.

To find an actual dedicated main for Teemo, it like winning the lottery.

StealWolverineNov 25, 20165 votes

LOL. Lost all credibility when he brought up trynd support as a comparison when a few months back people were complaining it was op for a patch or two,

oSEXYPLATYPUSoNov 25, 20164 votes

teemo is listed as a support

FailogNov 25, 20163 votes

Well since Riot clearly doesn't make mistakes I stand corrected.

Oh wait, we are talking about THIS Riot? Oh. Pfff no bro. Riot is a company of clowns that is a veritable clusterfuck of the highest caliber. Classical scenario of average intelligence and competence gaining market lead due to being in the right place at the right time.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoNov 25, 20163 votes

lol yet they are smart enough to keep you playing...

FailogNov 25, 20163 votes

Wrong again. Gamers love to game. We TOLERATE them because its the biggest game available for our love of competitive games. They don't keep us playing. WE keep us playing because we love competitive gaming. Most of us will bail on league as soon as something better comes along. We are pretty tired of Riots BS

oSEXYPLATYPUSoNov 25, 20163 votes

lol ok if you say so... but there is lots of psychology behind what riot does and dont do... and they are the biggest game in the world for a reason and going on what 8 years? people dont leave, they keep growing...

problem i see they are too big now. kinda compare it to a band who is big underground band gets a good fan base start to climb the charts then next thing you know they are over popular and played and they change to try to please everyone except the core base that got them where they are.

FailogNov 25, 20162 votes

You really are giving them too much credit. Have you ever read Marc Merrills blog and marveled how something so fucking stupid could be so successful. As soon as a better company comes along with a better game, no one will give a shit about league or Riot. The only reason that doesnt happen is because the barrier to entry is so huge now. 10 years ago Riot could start with venture capital of like 8 or 12 million, in an untapped market...but now, that money won't be enough to compete with Riot. The uphill climb is too hard. So Riot enjoys this dominance on the MOBA genre...but its only circumstantial at this point.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoNov 25, 20162 votes

so you say they are the best game out? cuz something better hasnt came along? but yet still has a growing player base. over a billion dollars in revenue . but riot is stupid ?

alright if you say so

oSEXYPLATYPUSoNov 25, 20162 votes

ooops almost forgot.... they are a FREE TO PLAY GAME as well.

World of Warcraft isnt, COD you have to buy a console and the game plus online content. not exactly sure about overscene but a free to play game with the largest growing player base and a billion dollar revenue stream.

[zombie-brand-mindblown]

Zen FuryNov 25, 20164 votes

Teemo has a secret utility spell: Global Taunt

SwordOfWarDec 6, 20164 votes

You can't stop people from locking in champions because draft is designed in a way that your team can lock in desirable champs first then switch with someone who secures his own pick later. Imagine a support locks in teemo for the top who locks in braum, or vice versa. If you made it so supports couldn't lock in non support champs it would kill draft pick switching.

FailogDec 7, 20161 votes

Use your brain. Obviously they could have a mechanism for agreeing to swap lanes, allowing the previous support to lock in a non support

SwordOfWarDec 9, 20161 votes

Use your brain. If the support is first pick your idea can't work.

FailogDec 9, 20161 votes

Really? He cant click a button that asks another lane to swap?

WhaiiSoSeriousNov 25, 20163 votes

teemo support works perfectly fine if you don't have a noob adc.

FailogDec 1, 20161 votes

All data and logical reasoning suggest you are wrong, and possibly retarded.

WhaiiSoSeriousDec 1, 20166 votes

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All data and logical reasoning suggest you are wrong, and possibly retarded.

You just suck shut fk up noob.

khorneyNov 25, 20163 votes

why dont you carry instead of complaing about the supp.didnt realize it was his job to carry.

FailogDec 1, 20163 votes

God damn, another brain dead response. Okay, so hey, why don't teams in LCS just carry and troll a support for fun? What are you even saying? Supports don't matter? CC and ulitiy in team fights don't matter? What if the other team is doing just as well as you are, playing in such a way that one of them might carry, but they ALSO have a real support?

Think before you respond.

khorneyDec 1, 20167 votes

lets see mf supp? i remeber doing naut supp befor ethat was a thing and was called a troll and lcs does it and all of a sudden it can be done. malz supp works

PapasmokessDec 1, 20163 votes

Last Teemo support I had was a fucking boss, we shit on bot lane. I'm talking about 5/0 at 8 minutes shit on. In your defense though, I was really upset about it when he locked in.

midnight oil24Dec 7, 20163 votes

If you're going to get rid of those, I want you to get rid of zyra and brand too. Hate those guys in support.

On the other hand, I've had genuinely good yasuo supports. It's not conventional, and not everyone can do it, but I've seen it work.

FailogDec 7, 20161 votes

Brand is a bs support, but zyra is totally legit as support

midnight oil24Dec 7, 20161 votes

I hate it. I've never gotten a kill in-lane when I have a zyra support. I'm all for supports getting some kills, but they always have 9 kills when I don't have any.

Mysticman89Nov 25, 20162 votes

Teemo support is somewhat more viable than some other picks, and people have done it at high levels of play to good effect.

The blind is quite frustrating, and then the shrooms make for strong map control, and both are utility that isn't level or gold dependent. Utility is what makes support picks good afterall; normally that utility is through hard cc or heals/shields, but it doesn't need to be.

I mean it's not exactly a 'good' pick, but it's not yi or something who does literally nothing supporty.

(Also, supports needn't necessarily be tanky, and also also anyone can build tanky and become a damage absorbing pain to deal with, which is related to why all kinds of assassins were building straight tank and being a problem. As such, tank teemo support is probably much more viable than most people would want to admit.)

I think the real issue is people playing teemo at all, since everyone hates the little ankle biter.

FailogNov 25, 20163 votes

"Also, supports needn't necessarily be tanky, and also also anyone can build tanky and become a damage absorbing pain to deal with, which is related to why all kinds of assassins were building straight tank and being a problem. As such, tank teemo support is probably much more viable than most people would want to admit."

Im sorry but are you some kind of idiot? Did I say a support had to be tanky? No i said they had to be EITHER tanky OR do useful CC (the kind that helps ADCS get fed) or heal. How about you read the god damn post and engage your brain before you respond with drone style riot fanboy kool aid drinking drivel.

Teemo support is not viable in any capacity.

Imperial PandaaDec 7, 20162 votes

So what you are saying is play Riven Support, Pantheon Support, or some other champion support? On a side note I guess the wiki or game has changed it from support to controller. Guess that sounds better but eh, off topic. Sion support works fairly well but he isn't listed as a support. Cho'Gath/Malphite support is fun as hell too. TF tank support can work very well once he has 40% cdr and becomes a stun bot that is had to kill. Teemo support, once again can work well mainly due to shrooms and blind. Even without damage, the shrooms provide utility by slowing, and the cheaper Rylis may help it too. I love playing support and trying a variety of stuff in the role. There is one difference though, I don't play it in ranked until I am confident I can consistently play it well. With that said, I find Teemo support works best when in communication with your marksman to let them know when to trade after blinding dart. It is a kill lane, much like a Brand support.

FailogDec 7, 20161 votes

Well in ranked, and I have probably near 5k ranked matches, your off meta crap doesn't work enough in the long run to give me confidence when I see it picked.

Tanks because of their tankiness and CC that they usually have, are fine as supports. But Teemo is not. I would say that only champions designed as a tank for their primary or 2ndary, or as support for their primary or secondary should be allowed to play that role. Teemo doesn't qualify.

Imperial PandaaDec 7, 20161 votes

And I will respect your opinion. My team mates were iffy with SIon and Malph, and were pleasantly surprised with the outcome. I understand that you have a bad history with the off meta, but not all the champions have the label of support. You did just state that tank should also qualify, but would the system? In theory if it was programmed correctly, yes, but on the off chance a champion has a label you don't agree with? Ashe is labeled as a Controller secondary. That is what many buff/debuff, hard cc supports are labeled. In theory, Ashe is a support. I know comparing Teemo and Ashe isn't quite right, but it comes to mind. What then?

FailogDec 7, 20161 votes

I would say Riot should just go to down the line of all champions and designed ones that are qualified to be supports. Primary and Secondary class should never include "Support" It should include something the describes what they are--fighter, tank, mage etc. Some champions whos kits meet the criteria for support should have a designation. That COULD include champions from any class, but probably not many fighters and assassins.

I mean, sure I'm FREE to play Karma as Jungle, but I don't and no one does because its clearly troll. If it were prohibited because she didn't meet the requirements in her kit, then nothing would have changed. The problem is that idiots got the idea that brand and teemo were viable supports. And in a vaccum, in certain team comps against certain team comps and players, it might work. It might work if a team practices with it. But in ranked solo que, it doesn't work enough. Its awful .

EmbertineDec 8, 20162 votes

No joke, my brother got out of bronze by playing Riven support.

OglafDec 7, 20161 votes

Teemo Support, like Miss Fortune Support, is not a troll pick. It is a niche pick.

Learn the difference. It prevents you from making an ass out of yourself on a public forum.

That being said, the changes to vision and the Scrying Plant definitely did a lot to nerf the viability of Teemo Support.

FailogDec 7, 20161 votes

Don't lecture me. You come at me with your smug attitude that tries to make it like you are some high minded intellectual while I'm an boorish brute. YOU are the only one who just made an ass of himself. Check your ego at the door before you comment on my posts.

Niche pick are for organized teams at high levels. Normal Ranked bronze to Plat for sure, when I see Teemo as support I know its most likely going to be bad. How are you even debating this. I have probably more than 5000 ranked matches. It literally is the last champion I would want to see as support. But I guess I am basing that on neither logic, reason or past experiences.

OglafDec 7, 20162 votes

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Don't lecture me. You come at me with your smug attitude that tries to make it like you are some high minded intellectual while I'm an boorish brute. YOU are the only one who just made an ass of himself. Check your ego at the door before you comment on my posts.

Niche pick are for organized teams at high levels. Normal Ranked bronze to Plat for sure, when I see Teemo as support I know its most likely going to be bad. How are you even debating this. I have probably more than 5000 ranked matches. It literally is the last champion I would want to see as support. But I guess I am basing that on neither logic, reason or past experiences.

Pro-top: Don't use clever words just to make you seem smarter, because it doesn't work.

Your point is still as invalid as ever, you "boorish brute".

LOL.

midnight oil24Dec 7, 20162 votes

Honestly, your ego is even higher than the other guy. You're telling people that they should be banned from picking certain characters for certain roles.

Kind of a jerk-ish thing to do.

FailogDec 7, 20161 votes

No. I am advocating the integrity of the game. Nothing to do with Ego my friend.

midnight oil24Dec 7, 20162 votes

But imagine if there was a team that had a good yas support? Like, they had practiced and practiced. Then suddenly, you get riot to take away their ability to pick that. Is that fair?

You must stick with the rules you listed above, you can't just revise your rules.

Finally, your ego shows in the language you use. It's kind of pretentious-ish.

FailogDec 8, 20161 votes

Doesn't matter how much a Yas practices. He will eventually go up against other support champions that are just as practiced and because of his kit, he will put his team and ADC at a disadvantage in more situations then would make it worth playing. No matter how you slice it, it won't pay enough long term. That is why you don't see it. People inherently understand this. They just don't realize that Teemo is in that same boat.