Can we get a real lanebully support

CoolKnightST··1 votes·482 views

Currently we have access to a lot of teamcomps. We can run an splitpush comp, we can run an poke comp, we can run a siege comp, etc... With marksman able to jungle now & having adc's that can deal magic damage our options where never that big as before.

Still it feels we still lack some support options. Mostly when having the need of something that can provide AP damage. Solo Q is solo Q for a reason & it won't be the first time your comp exist out something like Riven Zed LeeSin Tristana. All this physical damage & no magic damage to ballance out. Time & time again one untraditional support get's the job to forfill this role. It was Zyra in early seasons. Than it was Morgana, than it was Fiddlesticks, than Morgana again to finaly close it off with Brand the pick that is used right now.

Champions that suppose to forfill this job Karma is always behind & can never fully replace the function of having no AP damage mostly during lack of itematisation and her playstyle. The question still remains she won't forfill the supportive AP jungle better with some changes than the current job she's defined by.

I think it's still for riot to design an AP support that is limited to the duo lanes that can forfill the AP role maybe in combination with some new AP itematisation options.

7 Comments

Puddytat2 votes

Annie ?

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

Instead of making all the old lane bully supports irrelevant by making a new superior one, why not improve the current ones?

CoolKnightST1 votes

The poke support in their current state are pretty difficult to ballance arround that point:

  • Sona: The recent rework made her more an enchanter/bully hybrid. Example build is:
    • item 3092 item 2049 item 3158
    • item 3105 | item 3024
      • item 3190 | item 3110
      • item 3060 | item 3050
    • item 3222
    • item 3102 This build won't give enouge damage to solve a short of AP
  • Karma: She's the closest AP support we have right now. Example build is:
    • item 3092 item 2049 item 3158
    • (if snowballing item 3136)
    • item 3105 | item 3024
      • item 3190 | item 3110
      • item 3060 | item 3050
    • item 3105 | item 3024
      • item 3190 | item 3110
      • item 3060 | item 3050
    • item 3285 With this build she can deal a decent amount of magic damage. The problem with the build is that her midgame AP damage is pretty low what means the enemy team still doesn't need mr even when she's crazy fed when following that build. This is the situation the lack of AP bully itematisation really starts to show. With so little options almost identical to enchanters this group doesn't really feel rewarded enouge compaired to other groups that litterly can adjust their build towards the situation.
Asayake 5150glow1 votes

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Instead of making all the old lane bully supports irrelevant by making a new superior one, why not improve the current ones?

^ I'm not talking about the post, I'm talking about the user.

Besides that, Lux ,Orianna ,Morgana should all work.

Ralanr1 votes

Lux?

Loco Mot1ves1 votes

An AP item that synergizes with support items for bonus damage? That way, it won't be broken on a mid laner for example yet provide supports with a fancy new offensive tool.

Though it could bring in new builds for solo lane because having the ward support item is useful for the whole team as long as some balance towards keeping your damage up is needed?

CoolHandJack1 votes

Vel'Koz

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