I love the new Leblanc!

Hochelaga·Nov 14, 2016·32 votes·2,668 views

Gosh she is so fun to play.

Don't get wrong, I love the old Leblanc, but I find it so stupid that it was all about casting her spells the fastest possible.

Now with her Q passive moved and the 1.5 seconds delay before a burst can be applied, it gives me more time to think what I can do instead of just button mash her spells. ALSO, it gives me more creativity to land a burst other than casting her Q.

I also love her new clearing mechanic (W + Q) and it makes it pretty easier imo to harass champions this way and farm at the same time.

Riot also added a twist with her ultimate that can allow her to fool the enemy team. (btw that clone can be cast ANYWHERE)

In conclusion, I find her so much fun and cool to play. I'm definitely going to practice more with Leblanc for season 7!

49 Comments

CorruptedScytheNov 15, 20164 votes

I like her too. It would be a shame if someone....disabled her.

HochelagaNov 15, 20161 votes

OMG I know right!

Wolfram OxfordNov 15, 20161 votes

Yeah maybe she has like... a visual bug or something.

EcchiOtakuTMNov 15, 20162 votes

Or a bug where R-R fully resets CDs xD

An Undead bratNov 16, 20162 votes

Wait that was a bug? I already got used to it xDDDDD

Wolfram OxfordNov 16, 20161 votes

What's the one where she deletes a champion? Or did they fix that with the rework?

MoonshadeNov 14, 20163 votes

I find her fun as well, and her new kit allows her to be more creative in lane and while ganking. Issue I run into is late game because Leblanc is so squishy and takes so long to get her damage off now (1.5 seconds is FOREVER in a teamfight), plus with this meta of Vayne and MF being as strong as they are I find I die to their burst before I can get my mark cooked and kill her, which kinda sucks since killing the ADC is supposed to be what assassins are specialized in

HochelagaNov 15, 20161 votes

I found out that you will have to play behind a tank in order to do well in team fights and not go full berserk like the old Leblanc. She now has a stronger burst but it takes more time to activate it which is pretty fine for me.

Sure she isn't really good to 1vs1 a powerful ADC like Draven. But she can easily manage to get Jinx, Tristana, Jhin or MF If played well

OelykNov 15, 20161 votes

I would argue against Tristana, She's not just gonna let you WE, because she can control her range really well, but Jhin Jinx and MF, well if you miss e to bad unless your fed-ish. Also Vayne major messes you up.

HochelagaNov 15, 20161 votes

If played well

OelykNov 15, 20161 votes

Ohohohohoohohohohohoho

HochelagaNov 15, 20161 votes

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MoonshadeNov 15, 20161 votes

I would argue all of those aside from Jhin, Jhin is super weak when singled out due to his limited AS meaning he will struggle to gun you down before you can cook a mark on him and pop it. The others late game can easily get 3-4 AAs off in the time it takes your passive to cook, which is all they really need to kill you, plus Tristana can self peel you off pretty easy with her R and W (R to cancel Leblanc W, or break E tether).

Part that bugs me is how she needs to play behind a tank line now, an assassin by definition shouldn't need a tank, they're meant to approach from the flank, pop someone and die/escape (either way they're out of the fight for the most part because either they're dead or their CDs are all down and their HP is likely super low too). If you're playing behind a tank line you're a mage not an assassin IMO and LB doesn't really fit the mage type either since she lacks AoE damage that is the defining characteristic of the mage archetype

warpenguin555Nov 14, 20162 votes

^ I love her too. She just needs to have her assassinations sped up a little bit. Maybe like each point in Mimic could drop a half a second off of her passives charge time. She could then still give her opponents time to react to her in lane but she would also be allowed to blow up the adc late game. RR clone is pretty weak as well but im just planning on using that for vision until i can actually figure out a good way to use it. Plus she doesn't just hit level 2 and permanently zone you out anymore.

MelledoneusNov 14, 20163 votes

Use the RR when you see a weak enemy fleeing, and make sure they can see it. They will run from it, and you can route them like that. The clone will not dissipate until it casts the spell, so give it some distance and make sure you put it somewhere that makes sense. You can herd opponents into you, or if you are close by you can use important CDs so you can jump them no problem.

KarakotNov 14, 20162 votes

Personally I like to gank lanes with RR and then they can't tell which one is me

HochelagaNov 15, 20161 votes

Oh yeah, that would be cool if her passive's duration would be lowered for each point on her ult !

SGT Dingle BerryNov 14, 20162 votes

I'm loving LB too. Her W/Q is amazing for wave clear and harass, I grin ear to ear when the enemy is sitting in the minion wave. I think Fizz got buffed too but most haven't figured that out yet.

SiytherNov 14, 20162 votes

i found that i can actually outplay with her now instead of just doing the same old 2 combos. The time on her passive (while most leblanc mains think is trash) is great for me i get to think about how i can kill u. Love that i can choose which spell to use with ulti now as well. It makes a hell of a diff for me.While some ppl are shitting on her rework i think that riot did a good job with this one.

HazyCloud7Nov 14, 20162 votes

Yeah new LeBlanc is a pretty cool mage champion.

GoatfishNov 14, 20162 votes

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Last Survivor64Nov 15, 20162 votes

Ruined her for me too, but not because I think they gutted her. Maybe late game yes, but otherwise she's actually stronger. I just don't have fun with the new play style. And all those champs ESPECIALLY Syndra are just bs. Syndra can oneshot squishies with her ult. Much bs.

GoatfishNov 16, 20161 votes

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Last Survivor64Nov 16, 20161 votes

That's the thing for me too. I have kept playing her to try and test out her new style but I just don't like it. Her wave clear is pretty ridiculous especially early game which I think is bs. That was like the one thing people could target against her b4 to help reduce her oppressive early game but now she has it which just makes her all the more oppressive early game.

I have started to learn to use r +q/w/e to some success now but I liked being locked into one. Sure it creates more opportunities and ways to outplay. But at the same time, the old one did make her think how she would combo in a team fight too. (When she can't q r someone or too much risk of w r in a group)

KoKobotoNov 14, 20162 votes

I really wanna see LeBlanc mind games with her RR but haven't seen to many yet, or many normal plays in general. I guess the champion is gonna take a lot of learning to pull off. I would try LeBlanc as well as Katarina but I couldn't play them before so playing them now... well that'd take awhile. I'll try eventually though.

LeBlanc rework looks so sick lol.

GrReaper96Nov 14, 20162 votes

If i have one problem with her its how short her passive proc time is. She only get 2.5 seconds to try and proc it. I wish they would increase it to at least 4 seconds or perhaps make her basic attack increase the duration by .5 seconds

HochelagaNov 15, 20161 votes

wouldn't this be way too much? It would zone any champions for way too long. her Q is also a target spell which would automatically hit someone if he gets in range of LB.

This situation was the main reason why Twisted Fate's card duration got reduced because it would intimidate champions too much.

GrReaper96Nov 15, 20161 votes

Yeah thats why i think basic attack extension is better since it also forces lb to stay near. Currently all you have to do is cc her for 2.5 seconds and she loses like half her burst and you have to reapply the mark, wasting another spell

invisiblecat1Nov 14, 20162 votes

I prefer her over kata (main) right now since katarina has a tough time keeping up with other assassins because she is AP and melee, but Lb is just a whole new level of fun But does she really need all that wave clear But at least she is not longer Q R W and 2.5k damage

dominusxNov 14, 20161 votes

i was looking forward to playing her but i'm too used to syndra and victor so i'm afraid of picking her up and failing miserably xD knowing that she is a early midgame powerhouse i dont wanna feel useless for 30mins ahha

RalanrNov 14, 20161 votes

It's the preseason man, experiment!

OelykNov 14, 20161 votes

I've been trying her out, and from three games of play testing, I came to a tentative conclusion maxing w is still the best move. She's pretty fun, but I feel a bit more limited in high intensity situation were you cant afford to wait for passive. aka fed adcs, especially because your a shorter ranged mage. So I end up running around in team fights and after lane really being kinda useless. But in lane your harrass is insane with wq combo, just land on them when they in minion wave, then combo it to insta-clear and maybe go all in with e if they are still close.

ErockandrollNov 14, 20161 votes

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I've been trying her out, and from three games of play testing, I came to a tentative conclusion maxing w is still the best move. She's pretty fun, but I feel a bit more limited in high intensity situation were you cant afford to wait for passive. aka fed adcs, especially because your a shorter ranged mage. So I end up running around in team fights and after lane really being kinda useless. But in lane your harrass is insane with wq combo, just land on them when they in minion wave, then combo it to insta-clear and maybe go all in with e if they are still close.

I played a few bot games just to test out her kit. (doesn't give me a totally good idea where she is balance wise)

I do some what agree that her sidgel is makes her vulnerable at the later stages, especially against DPS. But I would think that should be off set by her additional deception tools. (The general idea with the Assassin rework was to also give Assassins the tools to survive the extended burst window.)

Personally I prefer her E when it comes to harassing opponents. Since it can apply the Sidgel and dentonate it with one spell. Giving you a Large chunk of Burst, and leaving your remaining spells to decide if you want to finish the job. (Not to mention you want the E root if your Jungler is ganking.)

Her W-Q combo is cool, but i find it slightly clunky. Partially since her Q only moves to sidgled targets, and that her W isn't a Huge AoE. I guess I just run into problems trying to hit the whole minion wave.

OelykNov 15, 20161 votes

I want to quote Bjerg here that E is not consistant damage, plus I have a hard time landing it(animation is weird for me). Usually for WQ i q when they get close to the ranged minions, and let the melee tank so I can continue slowly pressuring lane.

BisaknospNov 14, 20161 votes

yea great now she needs 2 spells to kill you instead of 3

Jet SettNov 14, 20162 votes

But at least it takes 1.5 seconds instead of .3

Ionian VulpixNov 15, 20161 votes

Ahri So do I. I can actually stay in lane to farm for a bit without dying the moment she hits level 3.

BIackfoxNov 15, 20161 votes

This must be satire.

Papa SlothyNov 15, 20161 votes

I like it aswell, it didn't feel oppressive but her passive might need another reduction on minions

HochelagaNov 15, 20163 votes

I think it's alright. Anyway during mid-late game, she doesn't really need that passive as she can easily 1hitko minions with a single W

DevlinCrowNov 15, 20161 votes

I've played her few times in ARAM she's MUCH more fun to play imo but I still haven't figured out how to use the second part of her ult haha

101100111000Nov 15, 20161 votes

E - RR - RE - [Insert Rest of kit here]

4.5 second snare in the most optimal situations, 4 seconds normally, And all you need to do is confirm E hit to pull it off >_>

On top of wave clear. She sounds more like a mage than an assassin now >_>

HochelagaNov 15, 20161 votes

Do you know that her RR clone doesn't actually do any dmg or cc? It's just an image to fool players.

101100111000Nov 15, 20161 votes

Correction: The RR clone sends out a NON-DAMAGING copy of her last basic ability. It still applies CC, but because of casting logic its root duration is made concurrent with initial E cast. (Reading does me wonders)

And I should correct myself on the RR combo, the combo was based on the triple chain cooldown glitch associated with her Ultimate.

You're still snared for 3 seconds and have a bunch of waveclear. :^|

HochelagaNov 16, 20161 votes

no it does not -_- ...

Assuming that the clone immediately dissapears after casting and it does not do any damage, her R-R with E wouldn't do any damage nor root nor activate the passive.

In conclusion, she can snare for up to 3 seconds with E - RE. RR has NO EFFECTS whatsoever other than fooling at target.

101100111000Nov 16, 20161 votes

Do you know what concurrent means?

Did you even read where I corrected myself in stating the combo I afforementioned was a glitch?

Or did you just read the first sentence?

OelykNov 15, 20161 votes

My thoughts exactly, kind of a battle mage, short range, dancing around kind of champ.

Lanakila AuNov 18, 20161 votes

I'm not sure why people say that the new lb has more damage. When you look at both hitting all abilities in their most damaging combos; the new leblanc does 1335 + 3.3x ability power while the old leblanc did 1745 + 4.2x ability power. They also took away e slow and added a delay to her w. I like the new lb but lets get on the same page, this was a pretty major nerf and she is definitely weaker than she was. She has more options but her damage is much lower right now. Plus they made the decision to make her R abilities weaker than her normal ones throughout the game which doesn't make sense to me.