Do you consider Mundo balanced?

L0ve Is Blue··10 votes·609 views

I just wanted to know if I'm the only one who feels like Dr. Mundo is WAY too strong at the moment...

I personnaly find him very broken, his whole kit is free damage and allow him to build full tank without any drawback to his damage, and he can regenerate 72% of his health by just pressing R item 3065 ... Sure, he gets countered by grevious wounds, but even if he had grevious wounds on him for the full duration of his ult (wich is almost impossible since his ultimate also gives him movement speed to run away/get out of range/ dodge skills), he would still regenerate 36% of his max health (not counting his passive wich is also free regen)

He can deal 120.8 damage per second to every unit around him with cinderhulk at level 18, and this with 0 offensive items

25% current health damage every 4 seconds (if he doesn't get ANY cdr), with a minimum damage of 280 coz why not

gets free AD every 7 seconds AND empowers his next basic attack based on his MAXIMUM HEALTH (because why not allow a 5000hp champ to deal damage based on how tanky he is instead of basing this damage on the actual offensive stats he has)

Yes, he has health cost, but the highest cost he has is 90hp on his Q, and half of it is refunded if he lands it, and even if he misses, 90 hp on 5000 is nothing and he can regenerate that in the blink of an eye.

I feel like he either need nerf on his damage, or change his spell costs to be % health instead of flat HP...

28 Comments

Ahristocats7 votes

brk+domink= gg

khorney1 votes

lol ikr people dont build right i mean your doing all this extra damage becuase he simply has more hp then you

Best princess EU5 votes

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lol ikr people dont build right i mean your doing all this extra damage becuase he simply has more hp then you

problem is that i have to build domink+ mortal reminder, that's a waste

khorney1 votes

i would still just build botrk and lord domikcs agaisnt mundo him having more hp then you will be more then fine

khorney5 votes

mundo is over rated. i havent had a problem with mundo his laning isnt good to begin with i went varus top lane and smashed him A becuase range and B becuase free grievous woulnds which i abused so i killed him in lane 5 times and his team all chatted saying report mundo feeding im like not my problem i stood and fought him while standing in my e and my w does % hp damage

The Deckowner2 votes

what about mundo jg

khorney1 votes

touche i didnt think about that lol i mean clear times are decent ganking is crap if u cant hit cleaver but true true

The Deckowner1 votes

i mean if mundo hits a cleaver then its garentee flash or death. and he doesnt even need to gank much as long as it gets to mid game he is broken.

Paroe1 votes

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i mean if mundo hits a cleaver then its garentee flash or death. and he doesnt even need to gank much as long as it gets to mid game he is broken.

Question: If a champion has no attention before a major balance patch, what makes you think its the champion thats a problem? Mundo builds HP. Is it really mundos fault that ADCs dont buy greivous wounds against him? No. Different champions demand different builds and counter builds.

You dont get a maw of malmortus against zed as malzahar, you get it against LB. You dont get MoM against orianna as malzahar either, you get raylais and black cleaver.

The Deckowner1 votes

adc's cant deal enough dmg onto mundo, even with grevious wound.

Paroe1 votes

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adc's cant deal enough dmg onto mundo, even with grevious wound.

Yeah, when mundo is fed. If hes going to be a problem shut him down early and make sure he doesnt get to far ahead.

Most ADCs can work botrk+crit into their builds fairly easily.

khorney1 votes

thank you someone whi understands why mundo is over rated

5050BS3 votes

Its not just Mundo. Any of the Juggernauts are broken. It is horrible design to allow any champ to build one type of items and get both Offense and Def.

Riot has lost it and the game is going to be nothing but down hill now.

Ralanr2 votes

He's frustrating to deal with, especially if there is no way to keep him from leaving the fight.

The Deckowner2 votes

dont forget his w gives him tenacity whoch means any cc (hint:also get a mercury thread) will have reduced duration on mundo.

edit: not debuff mb

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

His W does not reduce the duration of debuffs such as Grievous Wounds. Tenacity has no interaction with debuffs whatsoever.

The Deckowner1 votes

i might have remembered it wrong, sorry. already edited.

Dominick Destine2 votes

Drm is an EXTREMELY common ban in Plat/Diamond.

If he gets through, he's basically guaranteed to be picked.

RogueWill2 votes

He is balanced but on the strong side of the balance. he is not impossible to deal with, you always gotta remember he has a ridiculously weak early game, much weaker than nasus, so he shoudl be punished early game. If jungle he is easily invadable and can't defen his own jg effectively, going JG might mittagate most of his early game weakness but will leave his team without early game pressure since his ganks are only so-so and his clears aren't the fastest either. On teamfight, most of the time he is CC and then ignored until his team is dead, similar to how you deal with Singed but that require some coordination that can't be hard to achieve.

Sachabot1 votes

He is strong on this patch, you're not mistaken. I don't feel like it's out of hand, though, at least not where I'm at.

Mr Vulcanator1 votes

If you can hold him down he can't do anything.

L0ve Is Blue1 votes

item 3111 + mastery + his W... CC isn't very effective against him...

BluePolarizer1 votes

Depends on your elo. I played Mundo for the 2nd time ever in a ranked game after being on a 15 game losing streak. I won easily. He abuses assassins easily and beats enemy fighters because he doesn't need to buy damage to do damage (but they do!) while being a huge damage soak from the enemy ADC.

Earl Eulrich1 votes

It´s really easy to abuse Mundo if you know the champ, there´s not really much he can do to outplay you - it´s mostly stats.

the problem currently is that he snowballs hard and a lot of people still somewhat underestimate him (or are just really slow whn it comes to dodging cleavers) and give him a lead - which than crushes down on them.

Left Hook Larry1 votes

This community will always complain about shit like Yasuo with a 45% win rate yet never admit that a 80% banned champ is strong

Spoofghoul1 votes

Mundo is balanced he is very strong midgame but falls off a bit later due to everyone gettign so much deeps.

Even tho he has some damage it takes time for him to deal it.

And he does not realy bring any utility

He is easy enough to play around. he is basically just a juggernaut with a tad more sustain and mobility at the cost of uitlity and aoe damage.

Nekusen1 votes

I dk, i just can tell that i faced a mundo that missed every single skillshot and still ended up rolling in kills.

Fat Bastard GOD1 votes

I do find him pretty ridiculous right now. 4.5k HP tank with tons of armor/MR that deals 25% HP in magic damage every 3 seconds? His E is INSANE. Gets like 200 bonus AD, a giant auto attack reset burst, and his W + Cinderhulk? Oh, and if plan to try to run away, good luck. Good luck. With Ghost on a CD of around 150 seconds, and his ult up by the time it ends, you won't be escaping his 600 MS. Best part? He is FULL tank. FULL TANK.

This why I don't exactly like playing Nasus... But hey, if they have a hyper tank, pick Vayne. 12% max HP as true damage = nobody will survive.

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