They have some of the best itemization on the game, having defensive stats like a bruiser yet dealing as much damage as an assassin or even an adc, the most variety in starting items and best starting item (Doran's ring) while also having some of the best late game items (zhonya's, rabadon's). Why can't mages' itemization be nerfed?
RocketRelm3 votesIn fact Mage itemization is SO good right now that heavy AP scaling champions "Ekko, Fizz" build Tank over it, or at least did before the deliberate tuning that disallowed them to do so.
Ramza Paradise2 votesyeah man screw those immobile mages, how dare they be easily gankable, mana dependent, and need an item like Zhonya to even stand a chance against popular picks like riven and zed!!!
nerf 
buff 
pls!
ModBoggyBuntu1 votesyeah man screw those immobile mages, how dare they be easily gankable, mana dependent, and need an item like Zhonya to even stand a chance against popular picks like riven and zed!!!
nerf
you're just picking an inmobile mage to set your point, ignoring things like 
all while forgetting that inmobile champs can literally oneshot you with no counterplay whatsoever: anivia pressed r and e, and there you go, you just lost 1600 hp in less than one second and therefore killing you cuz she presses r and stays away from teamfight, viktor pressed e and annihilated me, malzahar is bursting my ass at any duel and in teamfights he uses his long ranged skills to stay really far away and he is tankier than most mages while dealing giant ass amounts of dmg, brand has really high damage and his ult is really unpredictable but always prioritizes champs even when they are really far away... the list goes on
sustained damage doesn't matter if they can burst you in less than 1 second, and no, i'm not implying fiora/darius/skarner/garen are fine
warpenguin5554 votesyou're just picking an inmobile mage to set your point, ignoring things like
fizz, leblanc, and ekko are all assassins...
ModBoggyBuntu1 votesfizz, leblanc, and ekko are all assassins...
they use mage items yet they're extremely effective as assassins what does that tell you, items that are supposed for sustained damage to actually be for burst and instakill
warpenguin5553 votesthey use mage items yet they're extremely effective as assassins what does that tell you, items that are supposed for sustained damage to actually be for burst and instakill
ok 1st: Most mages and assassins use the same items. There is almost no difference between what should be built on them outside of a few exceptions. 2nd: Of the 3, only Ekko does sustained damage while the other 2 are intended to be hyperface roll instakill.
DrCyanide3 votesSaying Fizz, Leblanc and Ekko use Mage items is like saying Zed, Talon, and Rengar use Marksmen items to burst people down.
These aren't Mage items, they're AP items. They're usable by anyone who scales off of AP, from Tanks to Mages to Assassins to Marksmen (Teemo, looking at you). If there's a problem with certain champions or types of champions using them too effectively, then that's a different problem.
BeatRushVII4 votesanivia pressed r and e, and there you go, you just lost 1600 hp in less than one second
Anivia needs roughly 1k ap to do the damage you have stated, and thats assuming zero magic resist on her opponent...that's not exactly common for her to get in any given game.
I'm unsure if you're employing hyperbole to make a point, or just woefully ignorant of the numbers attatched to champions and their skills.
ModBoggyBuntu1 votesanivia pressed r and e, and there you go, you just lost 1600 hp in less than one second
Anivia needs roughly 1k ap to do the damage you have implied, and thats assuming zero magic resist on her opponent...thats not exactly common for her to get in any given game.
I'm unsure if you're employing hyperbole to make a point, or just woefully ignorant of the numbers attatched to champions and their skills.
I didn't invent the numbers. I've played anivia and feel disgusted by that dmg output. It's not like you have to be in the face of the enemy the whole match. 1k ap isn't that hard to reach, I have reached 1.1k without baron buff. you just press r and a q in the direction of the teamfight then E something that's not the tankiest of the enemy team and watch how they get demolished
DrCyanide3 votes1k ap isn't that hard to reach
Oh really?
= 567 AP
You've used all but 2 item slots, one of which will be boots. What's this mystical 6th item that will net you 500 AP?
BeatRushVII1 votesI didn't invent the numbers. I've played anivia and feel disgusted by that dmg output. It's not like you have to be in the face of the enemy the whole match. 1k ap isn't that hard to reach, I have reached 1.1k without baron buff. you just press r and a q in the direction of the teamfight then E something that's not the tankiest of the enemy team and watch how they get demolished
Hm, i think im going to wash my hands of this. You have no anivia games in ranked, or on your league profile. Inb4 "But muh diamond 1 main account"
ModBoggyBuntu1 votesHm, i think im going to wash my hands of this. You have no anivia games in ranked, or on your league profile. Inb4 "But muh diamond 1 main account"
I do have a bunch of games with anivia in normals. While 1.1k isn't without baron, it is still over 1k ap without counting baron or drag buffs edit: added link, hope you can see it http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1945218968/217724333?tab=overview
DrCyanide2 votesHold it. Full Build + Baron + 5 dragons and you barely exceed 1000. You claim this isn't hard to reach?
ModBoggyBuntu1 votesHold it. Full Build + Baron + 5 dragons and you barely exceed 1000. You claim this isn't hard to reach?
barely? i got 1.1k practically, could've gotten a bit more if I could forgo void staff and get lewdens or something else it's practically 1k without 5th drag nor baron
Scorpionex1 votesyou're just picking an inmobile mage to set your point, ignoring things like
now i know your trolling but I'll bite anivia can do that amount of damage because a swift breeze in her general direction can kill her in a heart beat, literally all of the champions mentioned can die to a stiff breeze actually. a comp with heavy dive can take mages out of a fight and just go ham on the rest of the team
Ramza Paradise1 voteslol
BakedLotion2 votesI agree. Fireball and flamestrike are bs. Not to mention fucking iceblock
LadyRenly1 votesBecause they lack the free, sustained damage of auto attacks to both champions and towers, and rely on their combos to kill people?
People like Lux rely on a q+e+r combo to blow people up, whereas people like Vayne can just auto attack for days, only using tumble when needed
BeatzBoyFTW1 votesSo tanks & half-tank champs gets to have 
, but sure, let's just nerf mages.
warpenguin5551 voteswhats with this "all mages are cancer" trolling fad?
