we weren't ok with kog'maw standing still while auto attacking (because he auto'd way to fast for reduced damage) but we are ok with twitch afk ulting while standing still? we are ok with caitlyn standing still while autoing? lmao the hypocrisy.
damage was all that kog'maw had. no cc, no true dmg, no invisibility, no zoning.
Nanuk Pihoqahiak4 votesThe problem was that if he made it to late game, you couldn't do anything to him unless you could kill him before he got into range of you. The way his old W worked in conjunction with all of those on-hit affects led to squishes getting gibbed and tanks being shredded in seconds. I had a game I played where I got to my third item and killed a Vi before she got to me with her ult. It was simply too strong in its old iteration.
Big Lincoln4 votesi don't see anyone lauding caitlyn or twitch as balanced champions
NodirjonSattarov3 votesnothing is being done tho
Big Lincoln3 voteswe can't do anything about it fam
blame riot's balance team
NodirjonSattarov1 votesthe funny part is that kog'maw had a really low play rate % during his 5AS era (there was a point where it was above 10% but only for 1 patch). riot decides to axe it 8 months into the season. so following this trend, i'm going to assume they'll let the current dominant ADCs (caitlyn, jhin, twitch) run around for several months before deciding that their game play "isn't what they had intended it to be" but you're right, the balance team is a joke. i doubt they even played kog'maw that much
LordGeovanni1 votesriot is
Handy Sandy 2 votesHe also had a long range execute and tank shredding ability and some 5.0 attack speed but that's about it
NodirjonSattarov1 voteslong ranged execute was ok but scaled with bonus AD which kog wasn't building. as for tank shredding yeah he has pretty good tank shred. at the time, however, the youmoos/black cleaver builds were popular. the meta wasn't really tanks tho
Edge of Daybreak2 votesKog was just game over once he got to a certain point and there wasn't much most of your team could do except hope you had enough CC that kog couldn't play league. What really triggered me was that he made no attempt to actually dodge or outplay you it was just a pure stat check battle and chances are he was going to always win it.
NodirjonSattarov1 voteswhen a champion that has nothing but damage, what else could you expect? his abilities only provide damage. His E is the only different ability that provides soft-cc. there were a number of ways riot could have fixed the AS break but just scrapped the project since it wasn't effecting that large of a community
Edge of Daybreak1 votesI expect riot to do something about it. Even if riot's balance team is basically trying to put out fires with gasoline we have to hope they somehow figure out why that isn't working. Personally I hope they just rebuild kog from the ground up so that he has more decisions to make than do I win the stat battle or are you out of my stat check range so I have to R you. For a champion who has lore based on eating I still find it weird he spits.
Rebonack1 votesI expect riot to do something about it. Even if riot's balance team is basically trying to put out fires with gasoline we have to hope they somehow figure out why that isn't working. Personally I hope they just rebuild kog from the ground up so that he has more decisions to make than do I win the stat battle or are you out of my stat check range so I have to R you. For a champion who has lore based on eating I still find it weird he spits.
Maybe a new Passive that gives him some kind of enhanced bite attack in melee range? Would help him deal with Divers.
Into The Aether1 votesKog was just game over once he got to a certain point and there wasn't much most of your team could do except hope you had enough CC that kog couldn't play league. What really triggered me was that he made no attempt to actually dodge or outplay you it was just a pure stat check battle and chances are he was going to always win it.
I had a few where it wasn't a stat check.
I could get instagibbed.
Then I hid in krugs.
Warded bush that I saw them go into below krugs.
Triple kill. Good times.
Also, Kog used to look like he was singing a very twitchy and destructive song to his enemies during W. That should clearly come back.
LordGeovanni1 voteswhile you right about the other adcs you not exactly truthful about no cc when kog has one of the strongest slows in the game that is the basis for braums ultimate. he has damage but artillery damage is also good cc causeing your enemies to have to move. damage can be used to crowd control just like crowd control it just up to the enemy to be controlled or die because damage but no body is gonna be okay with that because if their damage is crowd control and gets nerfed like actual crowd control abilites which are only used to secure damage then it becomes harder to get kills and safe back line carries who are never in danger are not gonna like that.