I really really like Taliyah, but she just feels weak

xTropicalPenguin·May 21, 2016·4 votes·1,580 views

I feel like they made her max Q rank base damage slow as shit, probably equal to rank 1 or 2 of other mage's main harass ability, because they were afraid of the damage stacking from 5 hits, i did around 1k damage with 4 items with rank 5. Her "zone" that her E gives that gives her "control" does jack shit and nobody gives a fuck and just fucking kill you cuz the "zone" sucks dick. It's a damn shame she seems so weak. Maybe i'm just doing something wrong, not playing her right?

11 Comments

RoranaMay 21, 20161 votes

just max e first, q is about 180 damage level one if you land the entire thing, and if you are maxing e, there is no reason to spam q. So you will have the high damage q up more often. Also, e->w is amazing damage, e itself is pretty decent wave clear and e cant be ignored if you max it first. I tend to max q last cause its unreliable, but i don't really find myself missing out on damage.

ForgottenLuckMay 21, 20161 votes

Strange I feel the opposite she seems way too strong

xTropicalPenguinMay 21, 20161 votes

how on earth are you building her

AysarMay 21, 20161 votes

I build ROA into more AP like Zhonya's/Abyssal into Rylai's. This build is good, however the damage is lacking. I don't think going glass cannon is good for her because she needs the survivability considering the way her abilities work, and also, even if you go full AP glass cannon, her damage output would still be limited by Q's passive and the slow/clunkiness of her E W combo.

BeldairMay 21, 20161 votes

I have no issues with her. I actually love her tbh. But i've only played her as a support so far.

Heck...me (as Taliyah support) and a Jhin completely decimated a Quinn and Jinx bot.

Bradley DragonMay 21, 20161 votes

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I have no issues with her. I actually love her tbh. But i've only played her as a support so far.

Heck...me (as Taliyah support) and a Jhin completely decimated a Quinn and Jinx bot.

dual adc lane? yea thats why

BeldairMay 21, 20161 votes

Won again against a Lucian/Thresh bot too.

AysarMay 21, 20161 votes

she might work as a support because of the utility she provides, backed up by the damage of the ADC. But as a mid laner, she struggles to match the damage and trading of other superior mages like Azir, Brand or assassins like Zed, Leblanc etc.

BeldairMay 22, 20161 votes

That i could agree with. But she is a decent counter to the Azir Drift.

Chad ChadlainnMay 21, 20161 votes

No, I agree. What is the point of this champ? I see concepts and ideas for a kit, but she doesn't do damage. I had been under the impression she was a mage, but no part of her kit besides her ult seems very useful. She doesn't even scale for shit. I've never felt like a champion was so useless since Bard, and I was proven wrong with Bard but at least you could see potential in that kit. Taliyah? Nope. Nothing doing for me. I see what looks like a Kite mage/zone mage, but no reliable way to do either.

Honestly I will probably just dodge if I see one when I attempt ranked on my team, it's that bad. I humored Bard back when I thought he was potato, but not this champ.

AysarMay 21, 20161 votes

I've been playing her for a while now, and I really like her kit and her concept. However, so far i havent won a single game with her, no have i lost a game with a Taliyah on the enemy team. Her laning is ok, she doesnt win or lose lane. The best you can do is come out even in lane, and then try to roam. I feel like she's an amazing play maker, which is awesome if you're team is ahead. However, if you're team is behind, it's really hard to carry as Taliyah, no matter how fed you are because your damage is laughable compared to other mid laners. Her Q is very limited because of the 3 minute passive that covers the lane after a few uses, reducing your damage output and dueling/trading potential. Not to mention it's already hard enough to land all five shots. Moreover, her E W combo while nice, is still very hard to land and eats up a lot of mana.

All in all i think she's a cool champion, and i'd like to main her, because she has amazing potential, however, i do think she needs a buff to her damage. A reduction on Q's passive would be nice to improve her dueling/trading in lane. Also, i think she needs a combat aspect added to her passive, like a damage buff if she's close to walls, because as it stands, her passive is useless aside from helping her roam faster.