http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/gameplay/taking-another-look-subclasses
I have to say, I am honestly disappointed. You have failed the Zyra-mid playerbase Riot.
I've always enjoyed carrying games with her, and I thought that that will continue after you sort out the failed rework. But I see she will be heading in the support direction now.
Really disappointing.
CannonLordFreed19 votes
and 
would like to have a word with you.
sheldonbunny6 votes
Was about to say this. You have my +1. Seriously after all these years Morgana definitely gets this complaint over other mids that have become popular as supports.
Additionally...failed rework? lol, just can't understand that logic.
Mig892 votesThe rework was amazing. What killed her mid was the plant ai nerf. You have to get that much closer to the mages and assasins in mid lane now and she's one of the softest targets. Before you were able to poke with q but now it's only reliable if you land the E first
OyddAWqJ5r1 votes[deleted]
Mig891 votesI was talking about Zyra. Not sure which champ youre referring to.
OyddAWqJ5r2 votesOh derp. responded to the wrong comment.
OyddAWqJ5r2 votesThe original kit was amazing and unique. New is a generic mage with no real identity. Other than RW hurhur heals.
Takazaki5 votes
this
but is till play morgana and karma mid
when yasuo gets banned and the guy who did it locks in some mage, i make sure that have a highly interactive lane of m pushing them in with W/Q and never running out fo mana because of masteries and double doreens ring and TP
Automated Riven1 votesMorg is really good against yasuo tho. Can't get cc'ed and melee range is a big no after six. And you farm with pool anyhow.
Automated Riven1 votesI still play all three of them mid.
Eedat14 votesShe was a support before the rework too lol. The infamous C9 Ashe/Zyra lane
LankPants11 votesYes, but she was at least playable in mid at all points, in fact she almost always had higher winrates since the only people playing her mid were dedicated mains.
Now, we have this. Zyra is barely playable mid, you certainly can't pick her if your actual goal is to win. Riot absolutely dumpstered Zyra mid with and after their terrible rework despite the fact that everyone was telling them to balance around Zyra mid beforehand and a poll conducted here and on Reddit showed that only 13% of people wanted this while 3x as many people said to kill Zyra support and only focus on Zyra mid.
There's a good reason why people are pissed off about the way Riot's been handling Zyra.
SpongebobIsLife3 votesYou have to remember that she was designed as mid laner, and the only reason she ended up going bot was because of the overnefing of her kit as well as having a horrendous passive. I used to love playing zyra mid, she was one of my go-to picks since s3, and I was really hoping to see some good results from the MYMU...instead they decided to rework her with support in mind and mid on the after burners. I was so disappointed.
SexyBabyJesusZ7 votesshe shouldnt be a support, her kit is so oppressive bot lane its honestly just aids to play against hopefully riot does something to fix it
Rewt1 voteseasy to fix this. Gut her base damages and give her bumps on her scalings. She wont be played support anymore.
An Undead brat2 votesGut is a strong word tho
LankPants3 votesHer plants need to have their damage/lv dropped to about half of what they are now. They're just far too strong at a baseline and their scaling with AP is utterly pathetic.
NineTailedMystic2 votesNot exactly fun mid either.
SexyBabyJesusZ1 votesNot exactly fun mid either.
yeah u right, honestly shes a failed champion
Jerry SeinfeId6 votesshe's classified as a catcher if you wanna see that as being a support then yes. NEVER does riot mention the word support in this list. Ivern is on the same list better get him out of the jungle. as meta's shift a champions optimal POSITION may change tho, this isn't something riot controls and honestly they shouldn't. If you want to play her mid do so, at some point you'll start winning (especially if you main her). for example: Karthus has a higher winrate top than mid yet is primarily played mid. A friend of mine didn't even consider him a toplaner when i started playing him and yet i'm starting to win games and especially come back from losing games with him now. all while getting decent cs for my elo and not feeding.
that same friend still plays malzahar mid and still gets fed with it.
i honestly believe champion skill is more important than meta unless you're like masters or higher and even then there's OTPs.
but in the end isn't that what zyra does? she catches someone and bursts them with her plants.
KoKoboto5 votesHAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH Haa... ha... hah hah... hahh... Queue Depression
Athenes Lulu4 votesWith what Riot classifies as "support" and what "supports" do in League, Zyra will never be really played as a midlaner anymore.
I have a feeling that they did tried to kick Zyra out of botlane for YEARS and have failed, so in the end they have someone different write up and say she's a "support".
OtterlyLost3 votesI don't understand why they don't do what everyone has been saying for ages since her rework; bump up her scalings and slash her base damages so that she'll be a viable midlaner. And then revert the changes they made to balance her around support so she isn't completely cucked.
Kai Guy2 votesBlame korea and Cloud 9 rather then riot for this. Also shes still got power mid, just some really nasty bad matchups as well. So don't instalock.
alfavhunter2 voteshow to shift power away from begin a support
maker her passive plant spawn slower HOWEVER when she kills an enemy (including minions) the CD of the plant spawn is reduced by 2 seconds
this means if she isnt CSing she will have much longer passive plant spawning
if she is CSing it would be a slightly faster spawn than live depending on how well she Cs
next change is to raise her mana costs but give her a mana return when she kills a target similar to cho'gath's passive but only mana
then with these changes she is weaker as a non CSing support but could be tuned to have even better mana efficency when Csing well
LankPants12 votesHow to shift her towards mid
Plant base damage/lv: 5>3 Plant AP ratio: 0.15>0.25
Balance on from there.
What makes Zyra not good mid is that she doesn't really scale with AP. It takes 760 AP to double her plant damage, which is just far too much. With those numbers your plants do more damage after 360 AP at lv 18 and it will only take 312 AP to double the plants base damage. Basically just make her need AP to scale like every other mage but let her actually scale when she has that AP.
GULAG 4 U1 votesIsn't it also her lack of range or seem thing else I forgot? And her ult is ashitty orianna shockwave?
LankPants7 votesHer clear's not that bad and her ult's pretty damn good.
The main problem is just that she gains so little from AP that it's just wasting resources to play her mid. Zyra mid is maybe 1.2x more powerful than Zyra support, someone like Syndra is closer to 2x as powerful with resources than without.
GULAG 4 U1 votesThxs
Fairyfleur1 votesHer ult isn't just a worse version, it has a longer knockup, AOE, and empowers her plants tenfold.
ZeichiVos1 votesSo maybe this is a stupid question, but doesn't Zyra support basically go sightstone into full ap as well? And the redemption locket meta is the reason she's seeing less play? Don't get me wrong, I'd love Zyra buffs, but I figure just upping ratios and nerfing bases would be a delcate tight rope of not making support crazy, even with a reduced early game.
LankPants1 votesSo maybe this is a stupid question, but doesn't Zyra support basically go sightstone into full ap as well?
Right now she's going Redemption and Locket because those items are busted, but yes, she does normally go "full AP". The thing is that support Zyra can't expect to get very much AP even in a best case. If support Zyra can get 
she's doing very well, and those items only give her 190 AP total.
Mid Zyra on the other hand can build something like 
reliably in the same time that Zyra mid would get those 4 items since she has a reliable gold stream. That gives her 594 AP from items.
Something to note is that 190 AP is bellow the 360 AP breakpoint. It's fairly reasonable to say that support Zyra is unlikely to be benefited by these changes at any point and even if she is it would be fractional at best, while mid Zyra would get a huge late game spike from them.
alfavhunter1 votesHow to shift her towards mid
Plant base damage/lv: 5>3 Plant AP ratio: 0.15>0.25
Balance on from there.
What makes Zyra not good mid is that she doesn't really scale with AP. It takes 760 AP to double her plant damage, which is just far too much. With those numbers your plants do more damage after 360 AP at lv 18 and it will only take 312 AP to double the plants base damage. Basically just make her need AP to scale like every other mage but let her actually scale when she has that AP.
if they combined your changes and mine it would 100% kill support zyra and make her a powerful mid laner howeer with just your changes it just makes her better late game regaurdless of her role
LankPants1 voteswith just your changes it just makes her better late game regaurdless of her role
I'm actually just going to link you to the comment I made in this thread explaining why that wouldn't happen.
Mig891 votesI like this idea. Her passive could be called fertilizer or something. I love support zyra but I support this because I miss playing her mid
A Bepi1 votesThat's a shitty name ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° )
Mig891 votesIt was quick and off the top of my head. Leaf me alone.
Fairyfleur1 votesI think you missed the pun. By "shitty" they mean that manure is a natural fertilizer.
Mig891 votesI think you missed my pun lol. I got his joke
Fairyfleur1 votesI guess I got the leaf but wanted to clarify just in case
ModAcademy Kayn2 votesThe rework was an attempt to push her back into the Mid-lane, but it failed. So, realistically, while it was a worthy attempt, nothing has really changed. It's not like they're going to push her as a support, or make her supportish. It's going to be just like Morg.
The Yetii Rider2 votesI'm just glad. Sick and tired of Zyra mids crying that she should be in mid and that the nerfs to her support role hurt her mid. The majority of people play her bot, so she's balanced around bot.
SpongebobIsLife1 voteswhy did they play her bot though??
LankPants1 votesBecause Riot made changes that made her better bot. It's circular logic at its finest.
"People play her bot because she's better bot so we'll make her better bot so people can only play her bot and clearly the fact that people mostly play her bot means noone wants her mid, right?"
Alesya3692 votesOnly damage and some CC in kit... so helpful, much utility, such support.
ChaosThief1 votesWell, look at the bright side! People won't know how to deal with it effectively.
Dextix LT1 votesOh fucking hell, can you keep those pesky mages out of bot Riot, PLEASE!
I swear, ifi fucking see brand reclasified as a support i am going to lose my marbles.
Miku Append1 votesThe problem is seen as the same way it was with Morgana. Champion too strong and constantly being played as an oppressive support? Nerf it to have support stats. If they reworked her properly and make her more independent as a champion, she might be stronger as a mid laner rather than a support. The problem has been people taking mages who are supposed to be mid lane to support and forcing them to be nerfed because they disrupt the lane way to much.
Häxel1 voteswhat the hell is your problem? Sublcasses don't have rly anythhing to do where you want to play your champion. yes zyra is palyed msotily support but if you want play her mid do it. Morgana is in "Catchers" in there too adn you can paly her also mid. Jhin is secondary catcher, nautilus/ashe/lux could/should be secodnary catcher. But fact is most people play her support since ages and it is hard to change. so main balancing is there.
OHminus1 votesSooo Zyra's classified as a catcher now
Time to go read this to boost my zyra skillsssss
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/32/Rye_catcher.jpg
