Ranked Minimap Is an Eyesore (Literally), Because Science

Vekkna··99 votes·6,024 views

As in it literally hurts my eyes to look at it. This is important because the map changed over time from having red and green hues to the current, highly-saturated blue map.

Looking at the minimap now means you are looking into a block of LED screen emitting light along the royal blue spectrum. In-game I've seen several people complaining about it, and there are biological reasons why this map is inferior. Consider the following:

  1. Cones in your eye allow color vision in RGB. Each eye has around 7 million cones. Of those, 64% detect red, 32% detect green, and only 2% detect blue.

  2. Cones are layered into a shape similar to an extremely steep bell curve. The red and green cones are in the center with the few blues distributed in a thin layer at the base. The disparity in number and density causes the eye to see blue light in lower resolution.

  3. The eye lens focuses light onto the "peak" of the cone structure (called the fovea) where the red and green cones are stacked, so there is degredation of an image relative to the blue light concentration. This results in image blur.

  4. The lens tries to focus light on the fovea, but the short wavelength of blue light gives it a different focal length than red and green light. Having adapted primarily for red and green light, the eye has to work harder to focus on any blue light. Blue light concentration increases the effort, causing a sensation of "pain" in many people viewing bright light (like an LED) in a high concentration (like our new minimap).

There are a variety of other factors, but the conclusion is that the new minimap is too fucking blue. It's harder to see clearly, it appears more blurry and lower resolution. It actually strains the eye when it has to focus on a blue field frequently and rapidly over the course of games.

Aside from that, blue light is a major trigger of photosensitivity, photophobia, and migraines. It also causes computer vision syndrome, which is triggered and exacerbated on a continuum based on blue light concentration. Sitting at a monitor displaying mostly red and green for a long time will have less of an effect than sitting at a monitor with a block of perpetual high-concentration blue.

TL;DR: Change the minimap back. The other one was objectively inferior, because evolution. Thanks.

47 Comments

KingKong235030 votes

It looks black and blue to you guys? Honestly I thought the new mini map was white and gold

GenghisEmo4 votes

Well played.

Vekkna11 votes

Everyone think for a second about those godawful blue LED Hanukkah lights people put on their houses. Ever stare into those lights? It probably felt weird, awkward, or painful enough to look away. They also appear more like dots of blue blur and don't even "feel" like looking at a light source.

That's a few nanometers of frequency away from our current minimap.

Dylightfull3 votes

The optic sensor in my mouse is bright blue, as compared to the red color of many others. And I mean ridiculously bright. Every time I lift it up, it shines right into my eyes, too. I can relate.

Also I'm Jewish and celebrate Hanukkah myself, so I can also relate there.

Anotherherolost1 votes

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Everyone think for a second about those godawful blue LED Hanukkah lights people put on their houses. Ever stare into those lights? It probably felt weird, awkward, or painful enough to look away. They also appear more like dots of blue blur and don't even "feel" like looking at a light source.

That's a few nanometers of frequency away from our current minimap.

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The Queen Viper8 votes

Yes, you are very correct that the bluish tint is annoying and minimap image in general is more simplistic than what it used to be.

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It's harder to see clearly, it appears more blurry and lower resolution.

However this might be just because of your eyes, but the matter of fact is, the new map image is actually a bit sharper than the old one... the old is smoother and more detailed.

http://s21.postimg.org/mvqnxbc93/themaps.png

Retillin4 votes

Hmm maybe, maybe not. The mini-map on the left looks clearer to me (ignoring the jungle camps). If the jungle "woods" were made a solid colour like the new map it would be even more clear/clean.

rinsujo1 votes

The newer one is certainly smoother, and I like that. But until seeing them side by side i didn't realize what had been nagging at me. Blue base, blue-green lanes, (with blue turrets on top. ritoplz.) green jungle. Can I have grey base and orange lanes back please? Clarity.

Mew Goes AD4 votes

As someone who previously assumed that all the crying was simply about people refusing to change, I admit that this post as changed my mind.

I will now spread this thread to other threads I come across that have the new HUD as a topic.

XElite1093 votes

Please change it back riot.

Marshmallow Wolf3 votes

thank you for this

The Lord Cookie2 votes

Ah. Someone actually put out the science behind the abhorrent eyestrain I've been experiencing. Beautiful. No wonder I thought the resolution was simply too low.

Verxint2 votes

Remember, riot pays people a lot of money and they spend a lot of time making this shit.

If this is basic eye science, there's honestly no excuse for the design.

Celeste Benal1 votes

lololol. Programmers aren't generally paid much. It ofc varies from company to company. Let's not make any assumptions about the pay and benefits package Riot offers it employees. One thing I can say with certainty is that time is money.

Honestly, I doubt a lot of thought went into the minimap other than is it visible and does it clearly show what it needs to show? Are the color contrasts acceptable? Yes? No clashing? Good. Ship it.

chipndip12 votes

This is a lot of qq over something that's very minor...

Lauki1 votes

so much

Ankhr1 votes

interesting, which adds to the fact that they need to add customizable options like this

His Goatliness1 votes

The minimap is roughly the same color as these forums, yet you seem to have no issues writing out this long post looking at the exact color you're ranting about. Just sayin.

Davy Crockett1 votes

The minimap hurts our eyes more than these colors. At least in the forums the colors fit in. the shade on the map is just random and it doesnt help make things clear

His Goatliness1 votes

There's a lot of reasons that could be that aren't related to the minimap color. And as for the colors being "random" they fit in with the rest of the UI associated with league of legends. Hell, your face is probably just scrunched up all day, because you're making yourself so upset over nothing; that would easily cause your eyes to get sore after a while.

Vekkna2 votes

The forums are tan (red/yellow) on a black background, so not seeing your point.

But to make my point clearer, look at the text in the body of a post compared to the blue words at the top of the post "about 14 hours ago." One is sharp and easy to read at a glance, and the other isn't.

Caeler2 votes

Uhhh what? I see at least three different shades of blue.

Davy Crockett1 votes

This. I love the old minimap. The blue color is just destructive on my eyes. At least in ranked its manageable but in normals its just terrible.

The Lexer1 votes

I upvoted because you are one of the few people on boards who actually use science or facts in general to back up your point. Love it

FatesDefiler1 votes

it really clashes badly with the green background created by the grass. That's the one real complaint I have with the new HUD, the blueness.

NorthernDruid1 votes

The new HUD's minimap has too low contrast between ground and jungle blocks. Which makes it harder to take in on a glance.

The old one has yellow ground and green blocks, while the new one has builsh-teal ground and teal-ish blue blocks.

Meªt1 votes

+1 thank you for writing this. I'll spread this around, this needs to be seen by many!

Rismonaught1 votes

I wonder if I could adjust some of the blue out of my monitor somehow.

KilljoyX1 votes

YEAH SCIENCE <Insert picture of Jessi>

Gorgannan1 votes

The amount that it would affect you would not even be noticeable. With those tints, and the minimal time spent looking at the map, you'd be getting bigger headaches looking at the sky.

Jesus, people believe anything you "back up" with "science."

I prefer the old map, but can we please be truthful with why? It looks better.

Vekkna2 votes

That's actually not true at all. The sky isn't actually a source of blue light. It appears blue because of refraction, so you're actually seeing less blue light from the sun in a more diffused concentration. It's the opposite.

Second, there are variables in play. Monitor brightness is one. I personally have to play with pretty high brightness because the LED flicker is higher frequency at lower brightness and is a migraine trigger. Higher brightness means more blue light from blue pixels, which is uncomfortable to look at when they're concentrated in one area.

Also, given the nature of the eye, migraine triggers, and computer vision syndrome, more people are more likely to have difficulty or irritation from blue than from other colors.

Beef All The Way1 votes

I cant actually see friendly turrets, minion waves, or most ally icons (or enemy icons when they are on my jungle side) it all blends perfectly into the background making it impossible to use the minimap.... makes you wonder if Rito did any research into color blindness/deficiency....

50West1 votes

I actually agree. I love the new HUD, and there are vast improvements over the old, but the minimap looks less clear than the old one. The old one had nice contrast with various vision control and champion indicators.

RISE Shlack1231 votes

I agree on the minimap being hard to truly see. The rest of the new HUD is nice and compact, but there's something about that minimap being overly blue that makes it hard to see. I suppose it's science, afterall.

DeynaTaggerung1 votes

Reading this post I started looking at the blue background of the forums. And my eyes started to hurt... what witchcraft is this!

GenghisEmo1 votes

Not just science or biology only, there are some simple art related stuff in there too XD. And if you are the right distance from screen, that is the right size, the excessive blue of the new HUD makes the map "vanish". How? Your eye's Blind spot, while before the new HUD the complimentary colors and brighter colors helped attract the eye more easily which served a double purpose: the first it got you to look at your map, and second it reduced the chance of it "vanishing".

It could also be fatigue from the excessive blue, which then causes something more like tunnel vision, for when you look at your map, the more longer you play even if it is your first match of the day, you begin to not perceive other things going on for you are having to concentrate harder on trying to identify all the blueness and lack of bright colors that are on the minimap.

It is almost like the minimalist approach was to increase the chance of not looking at your map and increase eye fatigue to get you to stop playing ^_^

Had there been a complimentary color like orange for enemies to stand out easier i think it will not reduce fatigue, but it may be enough info to get your eye's attention to want to drag your eye to the map more easily to better perceive enemy positions without having to look at such a blue screen for long.

There needs to be like the old map. New minimap is too weird to look at. If they want to be minimalist they can try making it a little bit greener and a slightly brighter shade of green. Too dull or metallic right now, and with everything else on the HUD being the same type of blue or similar, it is too much blue and not enough stuff to get your attention, and since it does not get your attention very easily, it requires longer to perceive simple bits of info and can strain eyes more because of how blue it is and maybe even due to how much more effort you put into trying to perceive that bit of info. Also, it seems they forgot about focal points, if new map has some bright colors maybe it will drag your eye more easily to map or to enemy positions, as it is now, it lacks a focal point since all the coloring is too metallic, dull, and blue ish.

And on a side note, blue's tendency to be perceived as a depressive color (hence the phrase "feeling blue") is funny to think that Riot might be pushing the fatiguing of eyes too much and maybe, just maybe, trying to make us get depressed. Throw some warm colors in there Riot, please ^_^ !

brad1 votes

who fucking knows why they just love this ugly blue-grey color, same color as this reply box on the boards

i have no idea why they love it so much but its ugly af

Jacobofcourse1 votes

Who looks at the minimap anyway? I always love to be surprised by the jungler or roaming mid. It seems to make things more interesting.... {{summoner:2}}

Dr Poro1 votes

I agree. First thing I noticed ingame is that the minimap is too dark. Actually, everything in the HUD is too dark. If abilities/spells/items are on CD, they're completely grey which makes it impossible to see which item it is incase you forgot (very hard to see whether or not you've upgraded your trinket for example).

Celeste Benal1 votes

https://foundationsofvision.stanford.edu/chapter-3-the-photoreceptor-mosaic/

Good reading.

And I agree that the new minimap is slightly bluer than the old one. At least the background is. They also removed some superfluous detail.

LICENSED HOOKER1 votes

I made a thread about this, i dislike it aswell..

Thryale1 votes

but I like the new blue color. I think it looks nice.

Unicky1 votes

I mean just look at all of this scientific evidence! Clearly he's just some nooblord crybaby that can't adapt to change! And all of those other post with evidence pfffft clearly just exaggerated baby talk amirite or amirite? (edit: wanted to mention that the previous 3 or so sentences were sarcasm (although it doesn't properly translate into text) so that people don't misinterpret that and blast me with downvotes.) Seriously though, I haven't played League since about 4 days before 5.14 (due to the lack of a mouse) and so I can't form a proper opinion on it. From all the stuff i've heard it doesn't sound too pretty...

The Queen Viper1 votes

Well fortunately for us, there is this thing called modding... :)

http://s21.postimg.org/n08dde17b/datminimap.jpg

NewFoundAbility1 votes

No wonder for the past week I haven't been playing League. The second I log on to the client, my eyes started hurting and I felt dizzy. It is a bit more blue than the rest of my desktop and my eyes were burning the moment I attempted to open a game, and my head was hurting (like when you don't get sleep) but I slept a lot; it never cleared up til yesterday.

Thank you for giving me this information. Maybe this will change the mind of someone in my Skype group; the only one who actually likes the change.

purplekun1 votes

i hate it how they forced the blue color on everything this patch

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