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Junglers that need balancing

SummonerSquid·9/10/2015, 1:38:18 PM·1 votes·554 views

Hey everyone,

Here's essentially my opinion on the state of the jungle right now. With about 5 or 6 champions being meta, I think it's in one of the better states it's been in competitive play. This is purely my opinion based on recent competitive matches for the last few patches and my general thoughts about champions.

Too Strong Skarner I know there's not a lot of competitive data, but this one is obvious

Balanced RekSai Elise Evelynn Gragas NidaleeLeeSin Nunu

Almost Balanced RengarKhazixVi Ekko JarvanIV Trundle Nocturne TahmKench

Rengar Good mid/late game but bad early game Khazix Good mid/late game but bad early game, not as extreme as above Vi More of a niche pick, some small stats changes might do her some good Ekko After the tank build nerfs I think he's a little underwhelming JarvanIV I think he'll be okay after the PBE buffs Trundle I think he's good as a flex pick, not the best ganker Nocturne Similar to Rengar and Kha'Zix TahmKench Doesn't have the greatest early clear but has decent ganks pre-6

Too Weak Olaf XinZhao Shaco Udyr Hecarim MonkeyKing Volibear Aatrox Pantheon SejuaniFiddlesticks

Olaf He could use a jungle-specific buff, because I think he's perfectly viable in top lane XinZhao Almost put him in Almost Balanced, lacks reliable utility, his ultimate isn't great Shaco extremely binary champion, very weak in teamfights Udyr No gap closer, a more balanced version of Shaco Hecarim Poor early game MonkeyKing Terrible clear speed Volibear Similar to Udyr, but he scales better Aatrox I don't know what to think about this champion Pantheon Very snowball reliant, doesn't do great with a tank build Sejuani Poor early game, late game isn't as good as it used to be Fiddlesticks Predictable but a good niche pick. Needs a jungle item

Absurdly Weak Warwick Amumu Rammus Zac

Poor early games, bad clear speeds, free kills in a duel, bad ganks pre-6 besides Rammus.

If I'm missing somebody or you disagree feel free to comment and let me know why.

Edit: Added more justification.

9 Comments

IAMS4T4N9/10/2015, 1:40:06 PM2 votes

wukong xin zhao warwick rammus zac amumu weak lol

Kledy McKledFace9/10/2015, 1:45:38 PM1 votes

well absurdly weak put aatrox in that hes so useless in this game... Also rammus isnt weak its just people who dont understand how to play him and amumu same.

xJLx MCHammer9/10/2015, 1:48:02 PM1 votes

Xin isn't weak Skarner is fine after the next set of nerfs in pbe Ramnus is strong Olaf and aatrox aren't weak Ekko scales harder in jungle now but he is really a mid laner Rengar is a bit too strong Shaco is nearly the same

Fowus9/10/2015, 1:51:35 PM1 votes

Xin isn't weak w/ sated

BattleOxe9/10/2015, 2:00:24 PM1 votes

WW and Xin are very strong with sated. But they are strong because of item, take away sated and they are useless

SummonerSquid9/10/2015, 2:10:10 PM1 votes

This is for competitive play. Sated junglers in general are really easy to take advantage of, so I honestly don't think devourer is viable on anyone at a high level. I'm not including PBE changes here.

In general all junglers with bad early games (not just sub-par like Khazix or Rengar) almost immediately get put in the too weak category. All the absurdly weak junglers are there because they are sitting ducks until mid game.

SummonerSquid9/10/2015, 3:17:21 PM1 votes

Challenger, LCS, other premier regions, some high ELO games. I'm also echoing things that I've heard high ELO streamers/content creators say.

Ralanr9/10/2015, 4:44:10 PM1 votes

I've had better experience in toplane with Pantheon than jungle. He's heavily mana reliant which didn't help.

I'm not a good jungler though. I forget to clear and get focused on ganking.