Add Runeglaive and KEEP Magus

SummonerSquid·6/15/2015, 2:55:04 PM·118 votes·6,571 views

On the PBE right now there is a new jungling item enchantment that replaces magus called runeglaive. It provides an on-hit effect and builds out of sheen. I know the PBE is tentative, but I'd like to provide my own personal feedback and see if others agree or disagree.

Some champions don't benefit from the on hit effect, like or pure AP , so...

...why not just keep magus in additional to adding runeglaive? Is 5 jungling item enchantments too many? I personally don't see a problem with having 5 instead of 4.

Runeglaive isn't a flat out buff to all AP junglers. Replacing the niche magus junglers with runeglaive junglers does increase champion diversity in the jungle, but keeping magus and adding runeglaive would increase champion diversity moreso.

114 Comments

Windfallen6/15/2015, 3:08:06 PM11 votes

While the offensive effects might be harder for Amumu to make use of, it's a huge buff to his poor resource sustainability in the jungle... This item may have less base AP, but having the resources to show up in lane more often is a huge boost to the damage done to champions for the first half of the game!

I don't know how the pros build fiddle jungle, but I've always seen people have more success rushing item 3020 item 3191 item 1058 item 3157 over item 3708

LOL Spammer6/15/2015, 10:52:33 PM7 votes

I don't understand why they can't just keep both. It's not like you can get both of them at once.

TheRakkun6/15/2015, 4:07:51 PM6 votes

Given my jungle main is fiddle and I occasionally go Malzahar jungle, I want to keep magus.

Vistha Kai6/15/2015, 7:18:57 PM4 votes

Yo dawg. We heard you want your mage jungle item to restore some mana, so we removed your old jungle item and gave you a completely new one.

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lDontLiftIcarry6/15/2015, 5:48:33 PM3 votes

they remove 10% cdr and 40 ap and replace it with basically a a sheen. Its pretty shit.

That item should be cheap as fuck now because of how much they removed lol.

VooDooRem6/16/2015, 2:00:41 PM3 votes

so the AP smite/tp

LongHair Fox6/15/2015, 5:17:03 PM3 votes

The current problem is that we don't really have a healthy amoung of ap junglers. Sure there is Fiddlesticks Nidalee but every other jungle ap champ is either someone people take to the jungle for fun Malzahar Karthus Kayle or an off build that is not currently intended Amumu Rammus Udyr .

A new ap jungle item could change that a lot and put new jungle champions up there which no one has considered for a long time. Any champion that could survive on old magus can also survive by buying any other ap item first so I hardly see why fiddle is a problem seeing how many people already does not build magus.

AFK Push6/16/2015, 3:23:54 PM3 votes

They shouldn't even add runeglaive, because we don't need another sheen item. The people that build this jungle item will most likely want to build item 3078 or item 3025 , then you're all like "shit unique passives."

KingPulse6/18/2015, 10:15:19 AM2 votes

I hope they wont delete Magus. I play only one champion: Fiddlesticks and I'm afraid it is no longer viable.

Soleous6/17/2015, 8:51:33 AM2 votes

"Runeglaive will be a buff to nearly all AP junglers" is bullshit. Only 2 are Skarner and Diana. Ekko is absolutely bullshit with this item. The item is giving 10% CDR which is not needed once Ekko has Morello/Athene's+Ionian Boots+the CDR masteries that EVERYONE should have. The passive is useless because everyone knows full AP Ekko rushes Luden's-> LB 90% of the time unless the entire team is tanky which is utter bullshit because the only tank ADC is Urgot and that's also the only tanky Mid that isn't better top. Even bruiser Ekko would find Iceborn better than Runeglaive in the long run. Also my respects to sticks mains.

largefish6/17/2015, 3:24:33 PM2 votes

Runeglaive limits ap junglers to purely ap, autoattackers, that have mana, DON'T USE A SHEEN ITEM, and have significant mana costs. Riot is basically limiting ap junglers to just ekko, akali, and diana (none of these champions will even benefit off of this item since they can't build lichbane if they build it). This item is awful for jungle diversity, I don't know why Riot would even consider it.

SummonerSquid6/15/2015, 3:28:58 PM2 votes

That's true, but I think item 3713 is enough for Amumu in the mid and late game. Since you can't get runeglaive until mid game anyway, it won't help resource management too much.

The huge amount of AP that item 3708 offers made it a viable choice for Fiddlesticks , but now I think people are just going to rush item 3157 , which limits his flexibility.

chipi996/15/2015, 7:38:27 PM1 votes

Or give magus spell vamp.

The Ecdysiast6/17/2015, 10:08:57 AM1 votes

Does anyone else think this'll hurt Diana? Won't it replace Lichbane or does another bought spellblade stop the first one?