Want to know where you'll end up in season 5? Learn how placement matches work, where you're ranked before your placement matches, and how many wins you need to get to the rank you want in season 5.
Full article at: Intentional Feeding.
All feedback is appreciated.
SummonerSquid4 votesThat's a good question, but it's hard to say since you don't already know where you stand. IMO it's best to just start playing now. There's no better practice for ranked matches... than just playing ranked matches. Just make sure to take your placements seriously, be familiar with how pick/ban phase works, practice with your champion pool, and enjoy it.
ValyrianBlade1 votesI've been playing Draft almost exclusively since level 15 ;)
So you would suggest actually doing placements before the reset then again after? My reason for not doing this was that I heard many players don't take ranked play (at least in silver where I'll likely start out in placements) very seriously at the end of the season because it won't affect them as much as normal or for as long?
Mind you, even if I go something terrible like 2-8 in placements, after the s5 reset I'd probably only be 1 or 2 Games below average so maybe it's really worth the experiment (although now I'm not sure if I'll get 10 matches in before s5, I'd need at least a week... It could be as early as tomorrow couldn't it? )
ValyrianBlade3 votesCool, good to know.
So as someone who has never done ranked before and who is waiting until after the upcoming rune page and runes sale to start ranked (to rid myself of disadvantages as much as possible), should I actually wait a lot longer to start ranked?
My thought being, after the reset my "league average" MMR will be a lot closer to players that are way above average skill level, and I'll get more difficult placement matches. If I wait a few weeks after the season starts, I'll (hopefully) get placed with only the average skilled players and will likely win more matches and get a better placement?
Or, if Bronze and Silver are really as riddled with trolls and luck-based (which team is the troll on) as people tend to claim they are, am I better off playing right away and hoping to get matched with better players in my placements so as to avoid trolls?
I'm also curious what happens when you dodge while in a placement match? Is it counted as a loss (the same as a promotional match), or is it just a time penalty (the same as a normal match) since dodging a ranked match is only supposed to cost a few LP but doesn't lower your MMR (which is all that placements look at).
Thanks!
Spreek1 votesYou're better off playing when the reset happens.
The games will be lower variance when you play with other people that are relatively experienced in ranked. If you don't do well, at least you'll be placed appropriately (Being placed too high and losing 20+ games miserably as you fall down to your true rating isn't very fun either).
If you wait, you'll be paired with a mix of completely new players who may or may not have rune pages and smurfs. Those games are very high variance and you are more likely to end up far from your true rating.
ValyrianBlade1 votesThat's a good way to look at it I guess.
I was under the impression that a new ranked player was put with anyone at league average mmr though, so low silver players for my placements. Are you saying that when doing placements you're more likely to get matches with other players doing their placements?
Spreek1 votesThat's a good way to look at it I guess.
I was under the impression that a new ranked player was put with anyone at league average mmr though, so low silver players for my placements. Are you saying that when doing placements you're more likely to get matches with other players doing their placements?
Yes, in placements, the matchmaker tries its hardest to pair you with other people in placements. In rare cases, you can get paired with regular rated players, but 99% of the time you'll be with other people in their placements.
ValyrianBlade1 votesThanks! I think I'll try to start placements with everyone else doing the reset then. Your argument seems compelling.
Waffle Shieldz1 votesI kind of knew the formula for my reset mmr, but this gives me a real good idea of how my W/L needs to be to get about where I want to be after placement, thanks!
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I kind of knew the formula for my reset mmr, but this gives me a real good idea of how my W/L needs to be to get about where I want to be after placement, thanks!
The formula isn't really accurate. It's the one they used back in season 3 before the league system, but in the season 4 reset, a much different formula was used.
Arcaede1 votesHoly s**t
Sirin Gioro1 votesAfter MMR resets, am I able to duo with my friends who were higher division than me (plat, diamond? I'm silver V) Man, I'm just asking! :)
MrBuffington1 votesI have a question; so I'm pretty solidly in silver atm; I checked my OPGG and it said my MMR is at 1134 and that the average for my league is 1104, and that I have basically normal MMR. According to your article, though, I should be closer to like 1350 or something; is this just an inaccuracy from estimates (due to the incomplete data that OPGG has), or am I getting placed in Plastic 2 next season?
Zenthon Prime1 votesI'm honestly not sure how accurate these sites really are.
According to the site, my current MMR is Silver V, and has been for a few months (the time since I stopped grinding ranked games). Thing is, I'm Silver III, and when I play ranked I have a pretty positive LP gains (plus 27-30 for a win, minus 12-15 for a loss). That simply doesn't add up in the slightest.
SummonerSquid1 votesOP.GG takes the average of your specific league (Alistar's Giants) which might be lower than some other leagues (ex: Sejuani's Warlords). I used a few different leagues for each level, but it still may vary by 100 points or so if your league is specifically higher or lower than the averaged leagues I used.
Aerothal1 votesHmmm, are you quite sure about your table? Because as far as i know, the first 5 games weigh heavier than the next 5. My experience from last season: I ended Season 3 as a Silver 1. I dropped to Silver 4 during pre-season. During placements, i lost my first four games but ended up with an overall score of 5/5. I was placed into Bronze 2.
Nicosarea1 votesSorry I don't fully comprehend the article but when is the best time to do these "10 placement matches"?
SummonerSquid1 votesHi all,
I updated the MMR values to be more accurate. Master tier was introduced just before I made this table, and it changed the average MMR of each league pretty significantly. Also I was a little off on some of the lower leagues because of small data sets, sorry for the silver discrimination.
Hope this helps!