What if Vayne's W did 12/14/16/18/20% Max HP AP dmg

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Condemn is like 650 range. Also, STOP FUCKING SAYING SHE HAS LOW RANGE. SHE HAS THE STANDARD RANGE OF ALL RANGED CHAMPIONS. She also has like 15165616516 gap closers and a stun.

If you wanna talk about low range, look at lucian and graves and quinn. (I really dont know why quinn cant have 525 if graves does everything better than she does, and doesnt have to go into melee range to do it)

Let's be honest. Quinn only has 125 range. She is only good in Valor. ALLAH AKUBAR

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Condemn is like 650 range. Also, STOP FUCKING SAYING SHE HAS LOW RANGE. SHE HAS THE STANDARD RANGE OF ALL RANGED CHAMPIONS. She also has like 15165616516 gap closers and a stun.

If you wanna talk about low range, look at lucian and graves and quinn. (I really dont know why quinn cant have 525 if graves does everything better than she does, and doesnt have to go into melee range to do it)

Because Condemn is 550 range AND SHE HAS NO WAY TO INTERACT OUTSIDE THAT RANGE. If you are 551 range away Vayne LITERALLY cannot touch you; every single other adc can interact outside their base AS range except Vayne, which is why she's low range. Lucian's Q goes total of 1100 range, W 1000, and R 1400; Graves Q is 950, W 950, and R 1000, and Quinn Q is 1025, E 700.

Everyone knows Vayne has nothing outside of 550 range unlike every other ADC in the game - http://lol.esportspedia.com/wiki/Vayne

Vayne is effectively the shortest range ADC in the game.

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She doesn't have extremely short range. She has the average range for an ADC, being 550. Let us compare the range of all ADCs.

550 550 550 600 500 525 Minigun, 700 Rocket 650 525 550 575 525 500 550

Not showing Tristana because her range changes

Let's count the ADCs who base range outranges Vayne:

and counting range steroids

So out of 14 ADCs 3 ADCs have a base range that outrange Vayne, while 3 more have to have steroids to achieve a range greater than Vayne.

So what were you saying about her extremely short range for an ADC? It's also kinda funny considering she herself outranges 5 ADCs too.

Graves has a dash, Ez has safe ranged poke, Draven does stupid damage, Sivir has 2 forms of poke in which she doesnt need to AA someone, Lucian has a dash and ranged poke, Corki is basically all ranged poke, Kalista has a lot of mobility to get in and out of where she needs to AA.

Vayne is short ranged because her only source of poke is autoattacks. She has no way to poke without putting herself in immediate danger. The base range of these champs is okay since they either do not rely entirely on AA's or in Dravens case, does a lot of damage to the point where if someone does trade with him with auto's it'll typically be in his favor.

the point is more that vayne's AA range isn't high while she has nothing besides AAs, only conditoanly agressive cc and only a shortrange repositioning which only has a low cd if you get in AA range.

Unlike a corky for example, who has two longranged aoe skills, 1 of them spamable, and a longrange gapcloser to follow on engages from a big distance.

Vayne has no aoe, nothing with more than 550range, no cc to get enemies into that rage, and her gapcloser, while beeing massive in fight, especially for kiteing, has a short range and thus is rather bad to enforce things. She has her massive singletarget tank shredding dps cause it's her one major strength.

p.s. you forgot kogmaw.

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It was a joke, calm down. Vayne is my permaban for that cancerous W of hers.

Then it should be in memes and games.