I'm an Irelia main, but enough is enough lol.

5D Paragon··61 votes·5,834 views

Literally got 1v1'd and lost to an Irelia as Wukong.

Take note -- we were even in CS, okay? And the best part is -- I was 6-1 and she was 1-5. She only had Sheen, I had a Tiamat, Mercs and Vamp scepter.

That's how you know a champ is broken. :s

132 Comments

DeusVult30 votes

I don't really beleive you

If you were 5/1 and she was 1/5, you haditem 3077 item 1053 item 3111 and all she had was item 3057, then there is no way she is out-damaging you unless you blow everything and she unloads her whole kit. Just Wu's ult alone would do 60% of her health because of the 480% AD ratio on it.

Irelia is a very strong champ, but she is no where near broken. And you losing to her, if it did happen, was about you messing up that fight as opposed to Irelia beating you. Besides, you said you are an Irelia main, you should know what that champ is capable of, and not get blindsided by it

5D Paragon5 votes

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I don't really beleive you

If you were 5/1 and she was 1/5, you haditem 3077 item 1053 item 3111 and all she had was item 3057, then there is no way she is out-damaging you unless you blow everything and she unloads her whole kit. Just Wu's ult alone would do 60% of her health because of the 480% AD ratio on it.

Irelia is a very strong champ, but she is no where near broken. And you losing to her, if it did happen, was about you messing up that fight as opposed to Irelia beating you. Besides, you said you are an Irelia main, you should know what that champ is capable of, and not get blindsided by it

You're right, I should know what Irelia can do. Trust me -- I didn't underestimate her. I just didn't expect her [hell, you don't even believe it] to beat me so hard when I was that far ahead. The second she got Sheen, she was able to burst me from 100% HP to 25% HP with a single combo, and then R spam [which procs sheen, each one but she didn't really utilize that]

I think what annoyed me more than that was the fact she was able to out-trade me at level 1 when I was level 2 by starting E.

KFC Cashier2 votes

Oh look an irelia main

moomoomilkUwU2 votes

Exactly... He/she's admitting Irelia needa a nerf and is an Irelia main. #re2pect

Linna Excel10 votes

He's lying.

O Fallen Scholar20 votes

Riot smoked weed when they designed her. I mean she has an overloaded kit. That makes it very hard to balance. She needs a rework.

IcyPepper7 votes

How do you define overloaded?

I think she's kind of overtuned >.> Or maybe her passive needs a change.

edit: guys I was just asking an honest question because I was confused...

A Miss Fortune11 votes

She's a sustain-tank-fighter-assassin-mage. She has pretty much no hard fall offs I guess. She has sustain, tankiness, CC, mobility, damage, range, almost all being point and click too.

The Bíg Ticket3 votes

Nonsense....how is she a mage or a tank rofl? She is not tanky unless she builds it but then every champ can be a tank and her only magic damage is 240 on her E.

Her fall offs are lategame, she gets outscaled by close to every melee toplane carries...such as Jax, Nasus, Aatrox or Yi and even Trundle. On the other side she gets bullied by strong earlygame champs like Renekton, Olaf, Volibear or Udyr.

FluxBound2 votes

she's a tank because she only needs one damage item.

moomoomilkUwU2 votes

I guess he said mage just because she has an AP scaling, which is a reason Trinity Force is built on her.

The Bíg Ticket4 votes

Um yes...that is totally a reason to build Triforce on her lmao. Why do you guys even comment on this thread when it is obvious you don't even understand anything about Irelia?

moomoomilkUwU2 votes

Bruh I'm stating the obvious because you clearly didn't understand it... Zzz

The Bíg Ticket3 votes

So 240 (plus 15 from the 30 AP from Triforce) magic damage makes Irelia a mage?

And no, getting 15 additional damage on her E is not a reason to build Triforce on her lmao.

One Bind Morgana2 votes

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So 240 (plus 15 from the 30 AP from Triforce) magic damage makes Irelia a mage?

And no, getting 15 additional damage on her E is not a reason to build Triforce on her lmao.

dunno why you're getting downvoted, you're 100% correct

JAGMAG1 votes

i cant tell thou if hes saying triforce on her is bad or just the guys reasoning behind it is flawed because its definitely a good item on her.

A Miss Fortune1 votes

Her passive can give her a stupid amount of Tenacity so It's insanely impossible to shut her down if she's fed "Just CC her". Well that's what they said about Yi until he did 900 true damage to me in less than a second with Devourer. On top of that, people build her as a tank. I do see Irelia players go Tri Force > BoRK sometimes, but that's only if they're carrying. Most Irelia players typically build full tank though.

As for her being a Mage. She summons a ton of oversized daggers and throws it at your team to heal herself. Actually recently I saw an AP Irelia carry. I don't think I've ever seen AP Irelia Mid but apparently she one shot our Zed so that was cool.

The thing is that while Jax, Nasus, Aatrox, Yi, Trundle, etc outscale her into late game, if they fall behind they're near useless. Irelia has built in true damage, a point and click slow/stun, and she pretty much is immune to all CC. If Irelia falls behind she's still an extremely high threat to the enemy team unlike Jax who would instantly die in a teamfight without his dodge, or Aatrox who can pretty much be one shot.

I won't argue with you on Nasus though.Nasus hur dur lemme feed 20 kills to the enemy team but because i pressed Q 150 times i can literally 1v5 pentakill in the enemy fountain and one-shot the enemy ADC with a full tank build.

The Bíg Ticket2 votes

Her ult does physical damage..............

Unlike Yi her true damage actually doesn't scale and reaches its maximum damage at rank 9 with 75. So she will never one shot you in the lategame when you have 2000hp or more. She does have very high base damage which is why she is so strong in the midgame where no one has enoug hp yet to survive her burst, especially not the midlaners and ad carries but she cannot carry on that damage into the lategame. That is why she is perfectly balanced...she has a weak early game, then hits a huge powerspike at level 9 and when she completes Triforce but after 25+ mins she starts falling off and she can't 1v1 most adcs lategame. If you can't play around her strengths/weaknesses then you deserve to lose to her to be honest.

ayNigerianPrince3 votes

Perfectly balanced.

Irelia.

You may only pick one.

The Bíg Ticket1 votes

Since when do Bronze players know about balance?

A Miss Fortune3 votes

Doesn't matter if he's Bronze or Challenger, his elo is irrelevant.

Right now I'm in Silver, I played Ranked after I hit level 30 like an idiot and got into Silver 5. I kept playing a few games after and I did terribly in all of them and lost almost all. After I started playing again however, I have about an 80% winrate or higher. I've only lost 3 or 4 games since I started and climbed to Silver 2 and nearly Silver 1 already. I actually just won a game with a Soraka Top, First pick Katarina mid, and WW jungle on my team last Ranked game and I'm pretty sure almost all of my games exclusively has Gold - high Plat players in it.

Even though I'm Silver, I can play significantly better than people well above my elo and I can also argue on a champion's balance or how healthy their kit is better than most people well above my elo too.

The Bíg Ticket2 votes

Your last ranked game had 3 silvers (including you) 6 golds and 1 Plat V. Plat V is a huge difference to high Plat.

Of course you have only 52 ranked games this season, that is not enough to determind your skill level. You might easily be Gold or even Plat level.

If someone has played for 2 seasons and is still Bronze then it is obvious he doens't understand this game.

gaby1best1 votes

Huh... this has been posted before. But here we go:

B5 is B4 B4 is B3 B3 is B2 B2 is B1 B1 is S5 ... ... ... P5 is P4 P4 is P3 ... ... D5 is D4 ... Master is Challenger

Bronze 5 is Challenger. So your argument is irrelevant.

Dextix LT2 votes

Hello, Diamond here, irelia is not balanced. Good day.

The Bíg Ticket1 votes

Diamond in EUNE is not even an achievement lol.

Dextix LT1 votes

Oh of course, the lame excuse every EUW child makes. Alright, if division doesnt matter lets go with a different scoring system. Lets look at LOL king.

Reminder, LOL king has a score system that doesnt care in which region you play.

Dextix LT - 2289 - in top 7000 Danielas Kitten - 2060 - in top 98,000

Yea........ Somehow i am still better than you and have achieved more. Keep being salty and jealous.

The Bíg Ticket1 votes

Uhm no rofl. That means you are top 7000 in the EUNE server and I am top 98,000 in EUW. And being Diamond IV on EUNE with 11 more losses than wins honestly means shit...I have gotten to Diamond multiple times on this server.

Dextix LT4 votes

2289 > 2060

Git gud son.

An eune pleb has better score than you.

P.S. Wins doesnt = skill. (Because being carried isnt skill).

Dextix LT2 votes

Son, Lolking score doesnt depend on server, its global.

Also, again sonny, win doesnt = skill because (Being carried aint a skill son).

JAGMAG1 votes

after reading this thread i have decided i like you have an upvote

gaby1best1 votes

Yeah, Challenger in EU is like Silver in Korea. Oh, and you're a jerk.

gaby1best1 votes

She falls off late game, mid game is where she shines. If you position correctly and don't 1v1 because you're fed you will be fine.

ShatteredSkys1 votes

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Riot smoked weed when they designed her. I mean she has an overloaded kit. That makes it very hard to balance. She needs a rework.

Too be fair Irelia along with Xin Zhao were the two first "bruisers" that Riot created so you've got to cut them some slack on this one.

ChaosThief1 votes

No, they did that when they made Vladimir

Or release XinZhao or beta Jax

instalokpro18 votes

irelia is cancer? YOU DONT SAY

lB2kGRlc8y1 votes

better veigar irelia

General Murica6 votes

BS

Ps: mercs, outside the stun, is 1200 gold on ''no stats'' vs her.

h0tkarl4 votes

her ult and her stun are magic damage.

EndlessSorcerer5 votes

Irelia's ultimate is physical damage, actually.

It's part of the reason that Youmuu's Ghostblade is strong on her against squishy teams if she gets ahead; between her ultimate and Sheen procs, armor penetration scales quite well on her.

Potato Doc6 votes

So irelia is an amazing duelist, while wukong is more of a team fight specialist. Great you realized you shouldnt duel a duelist if that isnt what your champion is made for. Also there is a ton you probably didnt mention such as how you played, out plays ect... Yes irelia is strong, but your reasoning here is a bit flawed. Plus im looking at the 6-1 compared to the 1-5. I wonder how laning phase went? Seems like you were the one who came out on top

Edit: Down vote me, sure, doesnt change the fact im right

Shénzhì5 votes

#Irelia. Just one of the many old kits that need to change.

gaby1best1 votes

Should I remind you why "Better nerf Irelia" got famous?

Kuroi865 votes

The title was more than enough to spell out the bs.

Lugg4 votes

Exactly. Irelia can hard lose laning phase, but once she hits level 9, it doesn't matter at all.

Droogzy3 votes

I think her kit is fine...but I think its just number tuning. I've been hearing a lot of good suggestions about changing her stun to basing it on percentile health difference which I think would be great change for her.

Sasogwa2 votes

Still, I sometimes feel Irelia is the necessary evil preventing the cancer ranged toplaners to take over.summoner 31

Lugg4 votes

Uh, she is one of the cancers top lane.

Germaxes2 votes

Dude, u are broken...

MasterVidallis2 votes

Irelia's problem is that she just gets everything she needs from just leveling up. Sustain, cc, tankyness, damage... and synergies obnoxiously well with a trinity force. Add to that the fact her kit is faceroll, there is nothing to work around it's all point and click. Including her stun... She has a poorly designed, overloaded kit and excessive scalling that can only be beaten by outplaying her. She doesn't' have to outplay you to kill you, she can just smash buttons.

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