Vayne has a 45% playrate in Korea right now

Raid Boss Morde·Jun 30, 2015·8 votes·1,155 views

Vayne play-rate in Korea: 45%

Vayne play-rate in NA: 31%

Is it finally time to address Vayne? She's very powerful at the moment, and her play-rate kind of shows this. If ONE champ is chosen 45% of the time when there are 125 champs in the game, you know there's gotta be a problem.

They need to at least hit her W somewhat. It's one of the only mechanics in the game that has no way of countering. Build Health? Percentage HP damage will kill you. Build Armor? True Damage will kill you. The only way of really countering that portion of her damage is with Attack Speed slows.

Do something, Riot! I've complained about Vayne for long enough, and people are barely realizing she's this strong.

9 Comments

ApplyForAGrantJun 30, 20156 votes

And Ezreal has 40 - 50% pick rate throughout all of Season 4 in Korea even when he's considered weak. Never trust Korea pick rates, they are very polarizing when it comes to liking or disliking a champion.

QarekeoJul 1, 20153 votes

You summed this up pretty well.

The two things I really hate about Vayne and always have is that there's no effective counterbuild to her damage (I know Randuin's Omen and Frozen Heart slow attack speed, but that's small comfort in the face of a Vayne) and her playerbase tends to be unbearable behavior-wise.

I wish they would at least change the true damage to just magic or physical damage so there would at least be a theoretical counter (though magic damage might open up the risk of giving her mage builds, which I don't think we want).

Also, I think there's a problem with her being both a marksman and an assassin. Some clearing up of her role and play pattern would be good too. Maybe frontloading her damage somehow instead of having extremely high DPS? I think a pattern of burst>dodge>chase>repeat would suit her better than constant chasing and being simultaneously slippery and sticky. Giving her a small moment of weakness when she attacks would also be a fun counterplay.

Maybe instead of having a 3-stack mechanic, she could have a targeting mechanic like Quinn's passive that rewards her for choosing someone to burst damage on instead of incentivizing staying on someone for a long time. It would also telegraph her attacks and open up space for counterplay like Riot likes to do nowadays.

I feel like a reworked Vayne like this would have a lot of potential to be a fun and satisfying champion, but a she is and was for a long time she's really annoying for both teams.

doublelift fgJun 30, 20152 votes

no, they need to fcking make her catchable

DivewingJun 30, 20152 votes

Vayne is strong in tank meta?

Raid Boss MordeJun 30, 20151 votes

Alright then, why isn't Kog'Maw strong in this meta? He's supposed to be the tank shredder.

Player of GamesJul 1, 20151 votes

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Vayne is strong in tank meta?

/facepalm

Vayne is strong regardless if she's killing tanks or not. She's not just a tank shredder, she's an EVERYTHING shredder. There hasn't even been that much of an onslaught of tanks like there were when Cinderhulk was first released. Her kit allows her to be annoyingly exceptional at dueling, in-combat mobility, and ignoring any resistances you have. Her W needs to be looked at and if it isn't she needs to be toned down a bit. I think we've all learned that she isn't "that super weak adc early" anymore once you know how to play her.