S6 role select WAS the solution

Mira Arya Enthe··5 votes·543 views

Normals and low tier had low queue times. Autofill was only enabled when queue times were over 10 minutes, which only really affected top tiers. People waited 2-5 minutes if their role wasn't support, which is not very long, a single YTP or music video. Everyone was happy. The problem was dynamic queue, which uhm... the solution for that was putting soloQ back in place of dynamic queue.

S6 role selection already solved ALL major issues with Queues in LoL. A: People got their role B: Games were less toxic and dodges were rare C: Queue times were pretty average for any videogame

Only people who experience LONG queue times were people that queued mid/top. And even THEN it was 3-7 minutes on average. Which was fine, the reward for going support/jungle or jungle/adc was low queue times.

Autofill was never necessary, ever. S6 Role Selection was the ideal design, the problem was dynamic queue, which was not role selection. It was how people were matched up and ranked and could play with/against premades of 2-5 people.

Solution? Go back to S6 role select but with SoloQ. People who want to play with friend(s) can queue for normals, OR if queue times are not too long Flex Queue. No autofill. No DuoQ. Just SoloQ and Normal Draft(I won't get into the blind pick issue). IF Queue times can be short enough Flex Queue can be kept. Flex is a joke anyway however.

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TyrekGoldenspear2 votes

To be fair becuase of autofill people can pick support as their secondary and not get it almost all the time like in S6.

Also Flex queue isn't a joke so much as an environment that rewards a different mentality and skillset, kinda like your Triforce example.

Mira Arya Enthe1 votes

No, but they can have it not picked at all and still get it.

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

Well no system is perfect I'm afraid. After all we as humans aren't perfect. Imperfection cannot create perfection.

Your point however was Illustrated well in my first ranked game of the season. Got support like I wanted but 3 dodges later (I stayed in the queue) and I ended up jungle. X(

Mira Arya Enthe1 votes

It also just creates a toxic atmosphere. I myself play Bard, Leona and Soraka so getting support isn't really bad. But getting an ADC or Jungler who hates that role, or when I am not support getting an angry support. OR playing against an autofilled player. Is just miserable. Had a game earlier where the enemy team was miserable the entire game because of their autofilled support. They ended up winning but he was toxic ALL GAME. Our support was also autofilled, and while he was nice, he wasn't having fun. He normally plays ADC or top.

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

True.

Honestly the only thing I like about autofill is being able to queue Mid/support and still get mostly mid.

Mira Arya Enthe1 votes

I myself am Jungle/Support in ranked. So I don't mind getting support. But other people getting autofilled is what makes it miserable, along with dodges, toxic behavior, etc. For normals I play any role.

GULAG 4 U2 votes

Hmm, I'm not a MM brainwashed nutcrack (No, I am not insulting Mmetal, he makes great posts, I'm just saying I'm not blindly believing everything he says), "You should not play ranked unless you can play at least 3 roles". Seriously, being good at the game is, as you've said earlier in another great post, (league is a holy trinity one), you need to be good overall, not just at one/few things.

Irelia Bot1 votes

TL;DR Shyvana is OP and needs to lose her dragon form.

Mira Arya Enthe1 votes

???

Irelia Bot1 votes

what?

I like being able to have support as my secondary position and not play it 80%+ of the time.

Mira Arya Enthe1 votes

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TL;DR Shyvana is OP and needs to lose her dragon form.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

i personally think role selection should be randomly assigned so you are forced to learn and play all roles... therefore only the truly good players ( not one trick ponies ) rise to the top...

i personally choose auto fill in majority of my games.

Mira Arya Enthe2 votes

I mean, I wouldn't call master tier one trick ponies bad players, and most can play other champions quite proficiently, they just have a prefered role and champion, to master it.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

didnt state one tricks are bad... but not necessarily the best all around player at the game

Mira Arya Enthe2 votes

The problem I have with autofill is this, quoted from earlier.

It also just creates a toxic atmosphere. I myself play Bard, Leona and Soraka so getting support isn't really bad. But getting an ADC or Jungler who hates that role, or when I am not support getting an angry support. OR playing against an autofilled player. Is just miserable. Had a game earlier where the enemy team was miserable the entire game because of their autofilled support. They ended up winning but he was toxic ALL GAME. Our support was also autofilled, and while he was nice, he wasn't having fun. He normally plays ADC or top. So even though I got fed, I was upset. Even though the enemies won, they were upset. Nobody was happy.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

hmm

i personally dont think its all that big of a deal... people can get beyond this if they just choose to auto fill one game and the next game get the role the way.

i chose auto fill and i get all roles, top, jungle, mid adc and support

Mira Arya Enthe1 votes

I'd like to agree, I myself don't mind it. But League let alone Autofill isn't going to change human nature so much that everyone feels okay being stripped of agency and told they cannot do what they enjoy. I personally think the solution is to make some very mechanical, badass and perhaps attractive supports. Because atm a lot of supports are shield/heal bots. Some achieve what I am talking about like Thresh, but most are fairly monotonous to the carrylords of the world.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

well in general sense of the role yes that is what a support is

but you can be outside that box

i play alot of Malphite Maokai Nautilus Nunu Galio Trundle

supports

and have also played

Ashe DrMundo Garen Gnar Gragas JarvanIV Lissandra Nasus Renekton Shen Teemo Volibear Yorick Ziggs

support

Mira Arya Enthe1 votes

I myself enjoy traditional supports. I played priest in WoW and also Cleric in Perfect World. In Heroes I play Tyrande. I do have to say traditional supports in this game feel a bit lacking at times. So I understand off meta supports and a lack of desire to play support. But at the same time, there are other ways to get people to play support. For example, playing support role could offer a higher drop chance for chests/keys.

GreatWhiteNorth1 votes

Some people do not want to play against boosted premades, and do not mind playing support once in a while.

Mira Arya Enthe1 votes

Autofill was never necessary, ever. S6 Role Selection was the ideal design, the problem was dynamic queue, which was not role selection. It was how people were matched up and ranked and could play with/against premades of 2-5 people.

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