What if Brand's Ulitmate Became a Skill Shot?

Oakleaf Ranger·Sep 24, 2018·7 votes·1,513 views

How much less of a pain would he be to balance if his initial cast was a skill shot instead of a point and click ability?

11 Comments

haaaaaaalpSep 24, 20185 votes

He becomes better against immobile champions and worse against mobile champions. From a balance standpoint, that is going in the wrong direction.

BlytedSep 24, 20184 votes

Interesting thought. It would make it just a potentially stronger version of his Q though right?

5050BSSep 24, 20183 votes

Almost make the Range on his W 20 unites less

TormentulaSep 24, 20183 votes

It wouldn't solve his issues much.

Its the laning pattern that mostly makes him unbearable, he is a walking liandry's in lane and can spam aoe spells pretty frequently in the bot lane, while tagging them with an additional burst of his passive if he gets all 3 abilities. When brand is ahead (and his ADC for that matter) it becomes really hard to catch up to his levels of power due to how much he denies you for walking up. Its like the zyra effect, except zyra's plants can be walked away from, redirected, or killed while his passive is still a burn you can't stop til its over.

His ult is a problem when teamfighting to spread his passive for the 3 spell burst attack, but I wouldn't say the ult itself is the problem. I'd have them try making his passive explosion not count towards triggering on others, and make his ult only apply 1 value of his passive instead of 1 per times hit.

Frosted TipsSep 24, 20182 votes

I've suggested this change his ult to how it was supposed to work originally which was that it wouldn't bounce unless the target already had his passive on it.

BestealSep 24, 20182 votes

His winrate would drop through the floor. But I could deal with one less champ in the game anyway.

Frosted TipsSep 24, 20181 votes

Maybe right away but once the terrible players that play him because he is easy stop playing him it would go back up. I would say probably less than a 1% overall drop.

Edge of DaybreakSep 25, 20181 votes

That's a pretty hopeful outlook because that is a massive nerf that only gets worse as you go up in mmr. You would actually need more terrible players to face vs people in higher mmr's that will dodge it unless you make it like varus ult where it's ridiculously fast.

Frosted TipsSep 25, 20181 votes

There are some many ways to guarantee hitting skill shots and he has a stun himself that the people that played him would hit it most of the time. And I would imagine some number balance would have to go on. And also I would imagine it would be quick just probably slower than Varus ult.