"Intended to make Yasuo more dependent on allied knockups"

Bultz·May 20, 2017·1 votes·397 views

Literally this is the sign of a bad Yasuo who needs a team knock up to get his kitting off. Like do you even know your own champion? He isn't meant to be mega team reliant, that is why he is a slayer and not a sheep herder.

"making him a more or less attractive pick based off team comps" Do you even know wtf Yasuo is? He is a ADC not an AD need to be carried, duh fuck.....

'Mid-season was kind to Yasuo, leaving him noticeably stronger." I'm sorry that he was doing well, how fucking dare he. A 50% win-rate is so unbalanced damn riot.

Like please hand your position to someone who knows the game....

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HelaMay 20, 20172 votes

People dont think strategically about the game and how to counter a champ or best him. Instead they cry and whine when yasuo lands a tornado on entire team and kills everyone lol. Its like vsing a yi and saying hes OP because he got fed against a team that has no cc or anything to shut him down.

BultzMay 20, 20171 votes

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People dont think strategically about the game and how to counter a champ or best him. Instead they cry and whine when yasuo lands a tornado on entire team and kills everyone lol. Its like vsing a yi and saying hes OP because he got fed against a team that has no cc or anything to shut him down.

Oh I know. Like I get people who don't know what cc is fighting me using adc saying why is Yasuo so strong...welll ermmm you are countered. legit one cc spell on Yasuo and he can be shut down even if super fed.

AvienalMay 20, 20172 votes

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Literally this is the signs of a bad Yasuo who needs a team knock up to get his kitting off. Like do you even know your own champion? He isn't meant to be mega team reliant, that is why he is a slayer and not a sheep herder.

"making him a more or less attractive pick based off team comps" Do you even know wtf Yasuo is? He is a ADC not an AD need to be carried, duh fuck.....

'Mid-season was kind to Yasuo, leaving him noticeably stronger." I'm sorry that he was doing well, how fucking dare he. A 50% win-rate is so unbalanced damn riot.

Like please hand your position to someone who knows the game....

They really need to just flip it and make it so only Yasuo's R use is only linked to him 'knocking up a target' to prevent the shenigan, he already gets alot of gimmicks, he needs to start getting some trimmed up or 'bonus gimmicks' on the side to be trimmed out.

Sadly the latest PBE is showing they reverted the E change, which i hope they plan to go back and do something else on a different ability or a different change (maybe a 'charge limit' to force him 3 consecutive dashes since the ability does damage, scales off move speed and is not a ultimate, he's pretty much copying Akali in that regard but without 'charge times).

Akali might as well get to proc a slow on her target to make up for the fact its a 'ultimate ability she has'...Least ultimates get the excuse of some overloaded stuff on it...

BultzMay 20, 20171 votes

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They really need to just flip it and make it so only Yasuo's R can let him 'knock up a target' to prevent the shenigan, he already gets alot of gimmicks, he needs to start getting some trimmed up or 'bonus gimmicks' on the side to be trimmed out.

Sadly the latest PBE is showing they reverted the E change, which i hope they plan to go back and do something else on a different ability or a different change (maybe a 'charge limit' to force him 3 consecutive dashes since the ability does damage, scales off move speed and is not a ultimate, he's pretty much copying Akali in that regard but without 'charge times).

Akali might as well get to proc a slow on her target to make up for the fact its a 'ultimate ability she has'...Least ultimates get the excuse of some overloaded stuff on it...

Look, I have played Yasuo a shit ton and let me tell you, he doesn't need changes. I have been one hit and killed 100millionbillion times even after I was fed by one simple cc move. People like to pretend that Yasuo is unstoppable without actually knowing the champion. Legit hit him with cc and he can't do anything. You cant expect to beat Yasuo and have him not be agitating to play against if you don't pick counters. Picking champions because you like them to play against Yasuo isn't how this game works.

AvienalMay 20, 20171 votes

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Look, I have played Yasuo a shit ton and let me tell you, he doesn't need changes. I have been one hit and killed 100millionbillion times even after I was fed by one simple cc move. People like to pretend that Yasuo is unstoppable without actually knowing the champion. Legit hit him with cc and he can't do anything. You cant expect to beat Yasuo and have him not be agitating to play against if you don't pick counters. Picking champions because you like them to play against Yasuo isn't how this game works.

He can either be 'annoying' to play against, or just juke and massacre you. He should not be able to pull off the later while keeping the former due to his passive double critical chance' which lets him do just that even if your doing 'good' dodging' against his Q tornados, add in the fact he can shut projectiles directly down from his body (since the wind wall should REALLY start a good deal in front of him like he was making it with his BLADE not like he has some 2nd mouth on his stomach that belches a stench so disgusting it makes anything 'considered' as a projectile evaporate just to avoid the smell).

Alot of 'Yasuos' i've faced could just E right on you, throw in a Q if they want to spin slash you, press W point blank and in that '.5~1 second' reaction speed window(Because lets face it, a human's reaction speed is always going to have delays whether its you recognizing the information that Yasuo just casted W to you processing in that short span of time to hold your fingers for a second for the windwall to past so your abilities don't get blocked by it) he can quickly throw out some more Qs or autos and likely throw a Q tornado out at point blank to transition into his R. I don't consider things like 'lulz use flash' as a legit excuse, that summoner spell is cancerous for being used way too often and letting things like wall jump shenigans for 'ez escapes', where its cooldown still feels like it needs to be much longer so other summoner spells have reason to be picked over flash.

The gag itself pretty much plays on one of the most scummy things players could pull in pvp, common reacitonary habits like a champion 'rushing at you', Yasuo having a passive 'shield' to soak damage and his W to negate 'all' projectiles which soon as its cast pretty much makes him invulnerable to projectiles in one direction till the 'wall' has moved up a bit, which still likely is going to be on top of 'you' or between you and the Yasuo so he can just walk back a bit, especially as you waste time throwing 'projectile' autos and abilities at him.

They could easily do a few things to fix this from making Yasuo's wall have a 'literal' health to soak up damage till it gets removed 'early' and not block any other projectiles to making it where the wind wall can't let Yasuo just E dash directly on top of you and throwing it up immediately to let him free Q/auto you unless you are a champion who has no projectile attacks (which how many champions really 'don't have projectile attacks and are in mid lane norm pick?).

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I'm sure they do know what Yasuo is. What they don't know, however, is how to balance him properly without fully coming out and saying "Sorry, guys. We fucked up and should have never released this champion in the first place". You thought they'd have learned their lesson from Ryze or Vladimir, but nope. They had to keep pushing the envelope until they landed face-first in the dirt.

I always say "hopefully Riot will learn from this". But then we got Azir, Kalista, Kindred, Aurelion Sol, etc. So I pretty much have given up hoping that they'll learn to not make champions that are impossible to balance across all elos.

At least kindred wasn't that bad, Really i'd say Ivern Jhin Yorick rework were more annoying ones that did not feel like they were properly resolved on ends after all this time.

- Yorick because he made the jungle his literal 'bitch' and just clears it so easily he can yoink red/blue buffs from the enemy camp and force the enemy jungler to even get 'slowed down' on CS and catching up in power for proper ganking. While his own abilities which barely need to let him priotize damage can let him get off on being a damage'less super harass jungler who will be throwing bushes around (thank god they dropped the range down from 1800ish i believe to 1000 and make him not be able to play 'jungle minion hiding' as easily).

- Jhin pretty much like particular champions (cough Ekko TahmKench , etc. cough) have become such common enough picks by exceling at his trap and 'long range' snipe like shenigans that people rather use death fire touch on him so he can just burn out enemies by 'rushing' W or E traps in favor of Q (his CSing 'tool') just to apply pressure with how much health he could whittle off opponents or disrupt them so often they end up losing more CS then he does while focusing on his 'safe distance harassing' that people rather op for then shoot 4th shot autos straight at them to evaporate their health bars.

- Yorick was a scummy 'ghoul' swarmer that just harassed you so easily with how hard they were to 'auto' and just damage gouge you. Now he's a scummy laner harasser in top lane that makes pretty much any melee or small-aggression ap/tank champions his humping pole as he basically smacks you with his pile of mist, call up ghouls to harass you, lock you up with his wall or make you quickly run away from the wave to not get caught and usually blows up a good chunk of your health thanks to the Q and likely the bunch of minions and ghouls on his side getting to free attack you thanks to the wall keeping you from 'running away'. He definitely needs to get some of his power pulled so he isn't such a dominant laner type who just eats into a tankie harasser type to perma keep a lane going and one person rip all the way to the inhibitor while the rest of his team keeps everyone else on the other team busy in a mid lane team fight or dragon fight usually.

[slayer-jinx-unamused]

NinjaGuy69May 20, 20171 votes

"making him a more or less attractive pick based off team comps" Do you even know wtf Yasuo is? He is a ADC not an AD need to be carried, duh fuck.....

I'm sure they do know what Yasuo is. What they don't know, however, is how to balance him properly without fully coming out and saying "Sorry, guys. We fucked up and should have never released this champion in the first place". You thought they'd have learned their lesson from Ryze or Vladimir, but nope. They had to keep pushing the envelope until they landed face-first in the dirt.

I always say "hopefully Riot will learn from this". But then we got Azir, Kalista, Kindred, Aurelion Sol, etc. So I pretty much have given up hoping that they'll learn to not make champions that are impossible to balance across all elos.