I just fixed Varus

Nami in Bush··7 votes·806 views

Varus is lacking and has been for a while (46% win rate champion.gg), here is how to fix him.

Swap W into passive slot.

W is active attack speed buff that has duration extended every time a unit is killed. (lasts 4 seconds, extended by 1 seconds per unit killed [2 for champion], capped @ 10 seconds)

24 Comments

Elisheva4 votes

I don't want to play heartseeker tristana.

Teridax684 votes

I definitely agree with putting Varus's W into his passive slot. However, I don't think his current innate is really worth swapping into one of his active ability slots, since as a passive it's boring and clunky, and as an active it just copies Tristana. I'd rather have some other kind of arrow ability that would serve as another detonator to his new innate, even if it means nerfing its damage, since Varus's current actives don't sync perfectly with Blight.

While we're talking improvements to Varus, it might be interesting to have his Q draw speed scale with attack speed, which would make a good distinction between AD caster Varus (slow but powerful sniping Qs) and attack speed/on-hit Varus (weaker but faster Qs for more mid-fight damage). Varus isn't really a weak champion, but some of his power isn't allocated in the best way, and if he needs to lose something, I'd take out the Grievous Wounds on his E.

Nick Da Chip2 votes

I really like your idea on having his Q speed scale with AS.

His E also could stand to be tweaked a little. As someone who plays Varus often I find the grievous wounds to be pretty useful, but if the power were to shift to something even more useful that would be great.

Putting his W into his passive slot I'm not a fan of though.

Shuyin1782 votes

He's getting a buff this coming patch that gives him more attack speed on his passive based on your bonus attack speed. This is aimed at making ADC Varus more viable without harming "Sniper Varus" that just throws Qs. (passive : champion kill ATS buff gains +50% bonus attack speed added onto its base attack speed, non-champion kill ATS gains +25% bonus attack speed on its base attack speed)

In addition it's going to equalize the duration of his passive, so the 3 seconds from killing a minion jumps to 5 seconds and 6 seconds for killing a champion drops to 5 seconds.

All in all he has more attack speed and better wave pushing on the attack speed build with Hurricane due to the extra attack speed on his passive + the duration increase from killing minions.

khorney1 votes

dude no one cares about his stupid worthless passive..... sniper varus is already lost due to the fact he has been nerfed by lethality and the items containing it and ghost blade..... Adc varus has never been that goo dregardless of what people say and all they hav eto say is he has good poke..... No self peels no escape no self attack speed steroid and no kiting.... look at every otehr adc in the game they all contain this .... the only really good thing about varus was his hybrid on hit build i made made him super strong, 300 ap and 300 ad depending on my last item. AP is the only thing that makes him 1 shot wave clears, want to talk abotu wave clears my on hit build on tf ... makes him a 1 person split puisher equal to none.

theArtifacts1 votes

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dude no one cares about his stupid worthless passive...

That worthless passive gives upwards of 35% max HP damage after an ult if played in a particular fashion :)

khorney1 votes

his passive as it stands right now is useless and stupid, what this person is suggesting is making his w hios passive and his passive hsi w except it being a active similar to kog. Who cares about ohhhh man gaining a little more nonexistant attack speed that last 4 sec ohh yah thats game changing.....

theArtifacts1 votes

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his passive as it stands right now is useless and stupid...

I hope you understand why it is you're getting down votes. [slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

khorney1 votes

umm there is not one good thign about hsi stupid passive. yes tell me gaining a small amount of attack speed is good how that only last 4 secs

theArtifacts2 votes

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umm there is not one good thign about hsi stupid passive. yes tell me gaining a small amount of attack speed is good how that only last 4 secs

It works great in a team fight when you get 40% attack speed after the first kill is made.

khorney1 votes

u know whats better then that? tfs e passive, kogs q passive, i would rather have a 20% permantnet attack speed then a temp 40%

theArtifacts2 votes

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u know whats better then that? tfs e passive, kogs q passive, i would rather have a 20% permantnet attack speed then a temp 40%

But in lane when you're killing minions you essentially do have 20% permanent AS bonus...

khorney1 votes

woudl rather have a permanent buff then one that last only 4 secs.... this is making crap into polished crap is what tehre doing. with the assassin update they ruined 2 of his builds 1 completely adnt the other made it lose precious damage.

Furor Nexis2 votes

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woudl rather have a permanent buff then one that last only 4 secs.... this is making crap into polished crap is what tehre doing. with the assassin update they ruined 2 of his builds 1 completely adnt the other made it lose precious damage.

Varus has a good few builds that still works out quite well for him, although they do require a certain botlane comp. Kill lanes actually favor these builds. Hybrid, Crit, AP. The passive buff actually empowers these three builds quite a lot since it increases the time gap Varus needs to auto for the Blight Stacks.

From one Varus main to another, I'm quite shocked that you think his build options are limited to just two types.

khorney1 votes

Hybrid was his strongest build. And how does his passive improve fighting when I'm over 2.0 attack speed .limited because of his only real strength. Crit varus is useless, poke or caster varus was limited and is useless now because Ghostblade and lethality . People are like he has poke..... ez has poke and does more damage Cait has poke

Furor Nexis1 votes

The incoming Fervour buffs on top of his improved passive don't change your mind on that?

Well, faster AS = more blight stacks going everywhere = more damage to multiple enemies when said stacks are popped.

His Hybrid build is still excessively strong, out of the 20 or so games I played with it recently, I won 13 of those games. Their tanks couldn't do anything because the guinsoos, runaan's and black cleaver mix shredding them so fast it was disgusting.

khorney1 votes

mine is flat ad marks scaling ap glpyhs and i scaling ap quint 2 flat ad quint. runaans, nashors, rageblade, cdr boots, blade of the ruined king, and last item i usually get either(wits end, hextech gunblade for stats and regen, or lord dom) as i said the passive is meaningless and means nothing i pretty much max out attack speed anyway so in turn the passive does nothing and losing on hit damage off of fervor makes the build weaker.

Furor Nexis1 votes

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mine is flat ad marks scaling ap glpyhs and i scaling ap quint 2 flat ad quint. runaans, nashors, rageblade, cdr boots, blade of the ruined king, and last item i usually get either(wits end, hextech gunblade for stats and regen, or lord dom) as i said the passive is meaningless and means nothing i pretty much max out attack speed anyway so in turn the passive does nothing and losing on hit damage off of fervor makes the build weaker.

Your runes are all wonky. If you're going to go AP/Hybrid you want to maximize getting as much stacks as possible. I follow the standard ADC ruleset with AD flats, armour seals, mr blues and AS quints.

With my AP Build I go Nashors, Hextech Gunblade, Void Staff, Sorc. Shoes and Rabadons. I max Q first then W. While I'm relying alot on being in auto range for this, in botlane it's devastating.

My hybrid is different with Guinsoos into Runaan's and then BoRK with Zerker's Greaves. I get Black Cleaver to benefit from the Guinsoo's / Runaan's passives and finish with a Hextech Gunblade to have extra lifesteal as well as abuse my AP damage from the stacks, going from 15% max HP damage to 21%.

Nick Da Chip1 votes

This is what a lot of people don't understand I think. It's so great if a fight is going good or even.

The downside is that if the fight is going just bad it becomes rather ineffective. Don't get me wrong though I like Varus' passive.

khorney1 votes

Worst passive in the game by far.....

khorney1 votes

that would do it, he needs something for sure as a varus main, to another he is weak regardless of what people say about him. The "buff" there giving him is liek taking crap and polishing crap. who cares about hsi stupid passive.....

xWaters1 votes

Idk I find a well played Varus to be pretty strong already. I'm gonna see how these pbe buffs play out.

khorney1 votes

ther is nothing strong about him so stop saying that...

Nick Da Chip1 votes

Varus is a very balanced champ and this buff is a nice little buff. It won't give him too much power but the Varus mains will be able to use it nicely.

I agree his passive could use a little more. I wish they would go ahead and "overload" it since it's slightly situational (Though still not weak)

Perhaps tweaking how his E functions and letting your blight pops decrease the CD on it. This would let him function even more as a spell weaver, which is what his kit really wants to do.

The change with switching his W and passive isn't necessarily a bad idea though, I feel like that is a very generic ability though and would make Varus lose some of his uniqueness.

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