Darius After Rework... Share Your Thoughts

SymbolicFear··2 votes·1,204 views

I created this discussion to see what everyone was thinking about the new Darius.... I will post my thoughts along with everyone else's down below. So feel free to read and argue your points to your hearts content.

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No cussing at other players due to their thoughts (You can argue all you want, but don't go off on someone.) Feel free to post footage or stats of a previous match that contains Darius.... but don't post your game if it doesn't at least contain Darius.... And when you reply to someone, add @(their name) so that we can keep track of who is talking to who.

And that's it as far as rules go. Just remember, this is a debate page, not a school yard where you compare dick sizes....

MY THOUGHTS

  • I currently feel as though Riot dropped the ball a little hard here.... Darius was someone that was already complained about for quite some time before the rework, but afterwards, it feels as though it was more of a buff than a classic run of the mill rework. Darius wins almost every top lane match up now, including early game due to his passive. I feel as though the passive damage is about twice what it really should be for early game. At level 6, the bleed shouldn't be doing 50-60 damage a second, it should be at 30-40 at the most. The armor pen is a great aspect of Darius and it makes him so much stronger in general in teamfights and in lane phase during trades. That's fine where it is, so I don't see any need for change there, ALTHOUGH, his hook is basically a buffed blitzcrank pull, its range is almost the same but it has the potential to pull so many more targets in for more damage. So that's in need of a tune down.... speaking of which, his ultimate.... the dunkaroo, the "fuck you" as it were.... That's bullshit.... It used to be strong enough, where if you applied 5 stacks of your passive on your target, your ult would do double damage, but there's that now, but when you kill that target and get a reset on your ult, you only have to basic attack another target only once to get the full stacks and double damage on your second ult.... that's bullshit... that's basically deleting two people at once when you don't have to build any damage items. Im not saying Darius is in need of a boot to knock him down too hard... he is just in need of a slight tune down, nothing major. Just to make it so he isn't stomping everyone no matter how ahead or behind he is.

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18 Comments

Rain NT3 votes

I think he was made to win lane bro, but hes extremely weak after like he used to be.. but atleast now he has an almost guarantee win against melee top laners. So yeah its a minor buff.. but still weak bro lol.. I don't see him getting pick or even banned anymroe after the first 2 days of him being reworked :P

They are even buffing him next patch cause of how weak his later game is in higher level of play, I dont know the way he is design sets him up so that he can never get into competitive or do well in competitive :P

SymbolicFear1 votes

@Ignetius He isn't really weak. People that played him before the rework were expecting him to crush and overestimate what he can do. Someone who pays attention to what the rework did will destroy almost anyone. At least, that's how I feel. My buddy just picked darius back up after the rework and did badly the first game, after he realized what he did wrong, the second game he carried so hard he made the enemy surrender single handedly.

Rain NT2 votes

I'm not talking about his laning phase, he was created to win all melee matchup. The problem is after the laning phase.. hes useless at getting to the back line and probable get kited before getting 5 AA off or even 2 spells off if the players are smart (except players in bronze has no idea what to do, so Darius in bronze-silver or even low gold may have problems with him) but either than that he is not useful. And smart veteran players will prob most of the time go even or lose bit a little bit against Darius in lane and won't let him snowball.

SymbolicFear1 votes

True, the level of play is considerably different within the ranking system. A Silver game has vast differences than a Platinum. I think the biggest thing is the fact that in the lower elo, there is no true team composition, just a mash of random champs that players enjoy. That kind of team can be difficult at times, especially when the team has no hard cc or has very little peel potential for the carries.

Matezoide2 votes

I also agree he is fine, as bad as his win-rate is. I saw Darius constantly doing great on PBE matches, and i believe his poor performance right now is, in part, due to people expecting to be amazing lane bullies on the Early Game. I dont think he needs nerfs, however.

SymbolicFear1 votes

@Matezoide The only thing I truly feel needs a nerf is his passive damage... Someone who understands this rework well can win almost everytime just by autoing once and backing off, letting the passive just drain away the target's hp. I just don't think a tank should has as much damage considering the fact he is supposed to tank hits, not tank hits and then kill 3 people before finally dying.

N7Shurtugal1 votes

who told u that darius is a tank smart ass? he was a fighter who needed to build tanky, cos of 0 mobility, playing that kinda champs is really hard to play when ur melee. but no, he is a noob shamp, apparently he doesn't take skills to play. and what ever the fuck does this mean? win every time bu aa 1nce and let the passive drain away? what? I won't bother with points here , just uninstall league, this game is not for u.

SymbolicFear1 votes

You actually did type out your points... Again, you are just upset over the bashing of your favorite champ. This is not a request for nerfs, its just a discussion board where we share our opinions, so either go get a bag of unsalted chips, or go somewhere else. Cause I don't particularly care.

Finn Teh Human1 votes

Some people say he's op, some people say he's weak.

SymbolicFear1 votes

I think he is a bit of both. Some aspects are a bit much, while others are just god awful. I think they should just scrap the whole Darius kit and make a new one that is more fitting as a whole, since so many new champs have come out since him.

Vistha Kai1 votes

I rolled Darius on ARAM and because of the delay on Decimate I felt like going AFK.

Nothing's better than to land Mark'n'Dash on a squishy champion and deal completely no damage because they walked away.

SymbolicFear1 votes

I see way too many people whining about how Darius has a .75 second delay on an ability... Its to create openings for outplay potential and I don't think people like that. I agree that its damage is not worth the delay, but the damage is getting increased, so that won't be an issue anymore. I think the delay should stay because of the upcoming buff.

Vistha Kai1 votes

Any person with enough braincells to breathe playing one of countless champions with a dash can completely nullify Darius at any point of the game.

110% of 0 damage dealt is still 0.

N7Shurtugal1 votes

You are a noob, pls asking riot to nerf every champion that you can't deal with, I am a darius main for 4 years , through all of his nerfs, now I had to quit my main and looking for a new main now. why on earth would any1 fight darius and not kite at 4 stacks or even at 5 stack? how noob r u? play vlad, teemo, fiora, jayce, yorick , rive and tons of more, believe it or not he was easy to outplay by good players who knows their and darius mechanics b4, now he can be stomped, but still.................the noob whiners continues....

SymbolicFear1 votes

So... I am a noob because I find specific parts of his kit to be a bit much? Okay, and it seems to me that you are only upset due to my bashing of your favorite champion, which sorry to say, doesn't require any real skill. I do play Vlad, Teemo, Fiora, Jayce, and Riven. The only ones I actually enjoy playing though would be Fiora and Jayce. Jayce being my number one most played champ, I can tell you right now he is not in the best of places due to this meta. He isn't overly strong right now. He requires very squishy targets for him to burst down, while most of the games are full of 2k health + champions nowadays. Fiora on the other hand is not op. Does she require much skill to play, not at all, but her kit is fun and if you can play her correctly, very rewarding, while also being absolutely terrible if behind by any means.

It seems to me that you don't really know an op champ, I didn't say Darius was OP exactly, but parts of his kit go overboard if someone knows the mechanics. Also, I never said I couldn't deal with him, I just find it boring going against the same champions every single game in which there are literally over 100 options.

But please continue to whine about "noob whiners" when you don't even realize I have been playing for a very long time. I first started playing back in season 1 and I've been on and off ever since.

N7Shurtugal1 votes

You are a noob darius, u might be good at league but ur shitty at darius. apparently his kit was a bit overbearing, that's why he is not played in rank?or in lcs? every1 says so that darius wasn't rank material b4 the patch and now he is bronze. And funny how all the whiners are found at bronze to gold trash. No 1 at plat or diamond ever says he is op or "over bearing ". I would really really like to share a 100 details about his mechanics if you are interested how he was and is not rank material. Heck I already did that in some other post but the riot noob friends deleted it.

SymbolicFear1 votes

I don't play Darius kid, and again, like I said. "SPECIFIC PARTS OF HIS KIT OVER DO THINGS"

He isn't overpowered, he is just all over the place where some parts of his kit do extremely well, while other parts do absolutely nothing at all.

Also, I don't watch LCS, and I see Darius quite often when I do play ranked, rare though that may be.

N7Shurtugal1 votes

You do realize that Darius is 0 mobility champ, with no sustain. Hence he is a punching bag in lane ( do ur combo b4 him), a punch bag in team fights ( more so than renekton). Gets kited to death, that's why he had that kinda damage in his kit, as if all the damage with all the risk , no mobility/cc/sustain or anything. He is a champ that does well with team that has all the mechanics.....like initiation/ cc/ peel/.

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