Seriously, when i'm playing fiora, jayce, gnar, riven, basically any top lane fighter or bruiser... I usually go for the phage first, and the kindlegem second... but since most of these champs have been balances around cleaver as an essential, the change really kinda... isn't fun.
Dreadlocks2 votesUhhh This is how black cleaver has almost always been built... it was changed for 1 year..
Hammermancer1 votesbut it was changed with certain things in mind, I just liked the build path, I'm not complaining about the stat changes (I like it ripped from adcs) but as a fighter option it could use a little more damage in its reagents even if the final value equals out the same
Dreadlocks2 votesYeah its less loveable on someone like riven jayce graves etc.. but at the end of the build you get an extra 100 hp out of it and you still get shred.. so to me its better because 10 AD isnt much when you're building other AD items.. but 100 HP is pretty dank.
Hammermancer1 votesI'm not saying to change the final stats I'm hoping to change the build path to something more in the middle for all of them to enjoy a reasonable amount. why does every buff have to also be a nerf?
Dreadlocks1 votesThere isn't really a good way to do it unless you do 
but that has no CDR so it doesnt really work out.
EndlessSorcerer2 votesThis is exactly why they changed it.
They don't want it to be a convenient rush item on such champions.
That said, I wouldn't oppose an extra long-sword in the build-path to reduce the combine cost.
Dracocrash1 votesactually, cleaver was balanced around kindlegem. It is only in season 6 that they changed cleaver to be an adc item by changing the build path.
Hammermancer1 votesI mean I know, but the loss of that smooth damage as opposed to a janky double spike (On completion of phage and then again on completion of the cleaver) with basically zilch in between, i'd almost rather with something in between.
Taliyahc1 votesAgreed, but every class is facing this problem currently where one item is vital to a majority of the class.
Mid: 
Adc: 
Support: 
Jungler is arguably the only class not really being forced into certain items because they have such a large variety of jungler blades to choose from.
I don't know if the essential item is too much of a problem however as you can itemize your build path with 5 different items after finishing your essential. I would put itemization on the backburner of current problems league is facing but maybe down the line riot could look into increasing build path options.
Hammermancer1 votesDon't you mean
Mid 
ADC
Support ?
Kek (That's a joke if anyone can't tell)
nah but i guess it's more about the flow of what's built, than what is actually built in my eyes
Taliyahc1 votesLol
Oh are you talking about item paths? Sorry my mistake, agreed the old black cleaver path felt cleaner but I believe they changed it to make health a priority you can build into if you're in a more defensive match up.
Hammermancer1 votesyeah dude, just saying if im on fiora i dont want to sit around trying to build a kindlegem it's just annoying, i get that we have enough problems with marksmen and the item, but Im asking for them to meet me in the middle somehow
PhDs Nuts1 votesOh your build path feels weak?
I don't mind it. I play a lot of Darius, and the only real problem is that he can't one-shot the caster minions before finishing 
anymore. Items shouldn't have multiple significant power spikes. Trinity Force is only 2/3 useful for most champs before it's finished, except Irelia, because that shit is her jam.
SaltyKracka1 votesGood. Cleaver shouldn't be an easy first rush for any of them.