I am a big fan of AP Kennen, much prefer him like that then the current Split-push Kennen and I want to ask if RIOT views on this. How does RIOT view him and are there any plans on pushing him to a certain direction? Or does RIOT feel he is ok right now?
Sohleks1 votesI'd rather his AP playstyle was the prominent one too. Rather than just "standard annoying auto attacker." I personally prefer playing Teemo for that. Teemo is just more fun & risky and damaging doing that
Kennen's basic ability AP ratios are pretty low.
Even if you play AP Kennen it is better to rune AS for laning rather than AP. Because you need to auto a lot to harass and build W charge while last hitting. (that and his scaling with AS is the highest in the game, with his normal ability AP ratios are kinda abysmal; and AS is typically best rune for early game all ins regardless of champion anyway: AS also helps better for lane control when 15 AP doesn't)
Shifting his attack speed scaling for AP ratio could be a thing. It might not really help though because even AP feels the benefit from attack speed
Won't change the fact it is always best to start with 
or 
for laning further encouraging AS
It's cool he is hybrid but it is not balanced right now. It's too obvious what's best on him particularly for laning
Rune rework is coming though. So that changes the situation
ProtestantCaesar1 votesI'm looking forward to the rune rework and seeing how it changes things, but right now I'm not sure what runes most AP Kennens are using.
I've mostly been copying Bobjenkins: MPen Marks, HP/lvl Seals, CDR/lvl or MR/lvl Glyphs, Spell Vamp Quints. No AP or AS.
Pierce The Veal1 votesI'd rather his AP playstyle was the prominent one too. Rather than just "standard annoying auto attacker." I personally prefer playing Teemo for that. Teemo is just more fun & risky and damaging doing that
Kennen's basic ability AP ratios are pretty low.
Even if you play AP Kennen it is better to rune AS for laning rather than AP. Because you need to auto a lot to harass and build W charge while last hitting. (that and his scaling with AS is the highest in the game, with his normal ability AP ratios are kinda abysmal; and AS is typically best rune for early game all ins regardless of champion anyway: AS also helps better for lane control when 15 AP doesn't)
Shifting his attack speed scaling for AP ratio could be a thing. It might not really help though because even AP feels the benefit from attack speed
Won't change the fact it is always best to start with
It's cool he is hybrid but it is not balanced right now. It's too obvious what's best on him particularly for laning
Rune rework is coming though. So that changes the situation
I just start amp tome and rush hextech revolver, which I upgrade to protobelt or gunblade depending on the situation.
Asayake 5150glow1 votesHow about we change his W to something that isn't easier to use well (easier to stack empowered auto, thus more guaranteed 2 stacks) with attack speed? And how about we reduce his number of possible stacks from basic abilities down to 3, because it sucks juking his Q, getting hit by his W because attack speed and then getting stunned by E?
Lets remove the AoE stun from his R too, keep him a teamfighting god but please remove that.
ProtestantCaesar1 votes[{quoted}](name=Cant Hold Me Now,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OyyojfEt,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-06-03T23:38:22.158+0000)
Lets remove the AoE stun from his R too, keep him a teamfighting god but please remove that.
If it's not his AoE stun, what do you think makes him a teamfighting god?
Asayake 5150glow1 votesIf it's not his AoE stun, what do you think makes him a teamfighting god?
They'll figure it out.
But to be honest Kennen's 1v5 theme is kinda toxic to play against.
Darkdemon6531 votesKennen has been shit for a long time. We have no indications that Riot will let him be at least OK again, so yeah.
