If Kog's ult doesn't get a buff with the rework revert

Cherysse·Sep 10, 2016·8 votes·689 views

He is gonna be into the trash tier can, with the old pre-rework Yorick. Just buff his base damage Riot... and the AP ratio, it is not that hard.

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RebonackSep 10, 20162 votes

Over in the Kog revert thread Riot said that AP Kog is 'unhealthy'.

Yep.

Ap Kog is unhealthy.

Not all those artillery mages with hard CC to protect themselves.

CherysseSep 10, 20162 votes

How dafuk is he unhealthy? His ult has lost a shton of range, he has no hard CC and spends a shtload of mana to poke efficiently, +delay in damage= izi dodge

That's just Rito being incoherent, you know what is unheathy; having a freaking windwall to cover all your team and the only counter to it is to step into the other side, yeah sure, an ADC/ranged mid is gonna come right to the Yasuo in the TF.

RebonackSep 10, 20162 votes

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How dafuk is he unhealthy? His ult has lost a shton of range, he has no hard CC and spends a shtload of mana to poke efficiently,

My guess?

Kog's Ult can bypass Yauso's Windwall while staying out of his range. Can't allow any Mages to do that.

Livin like RivenSep 10, 20161 votes

Everyone forgets about Xerath. D:

RebonackSep 10, 20161 votes

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Everyone forgets about Xerath. D:

Here comes Riot nerfing Xerath's range down to 800 because artillery champions are 'unhealthy'.

exigentomicSep 10, 20164 votes

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Over in the Kog revert thread Riot said that AP Kog is 'unhealthy'.

Yep.

Ap Kog is unhealthy.

Not all those artillery mages with hard CC to protect themselves.

that's nonsense and I'm tired of silly dogma from Riot and ambiguous terms. the groupthink is getting ridiculous. there isn't just one way to design a healthy champion and game. if Kog was so unehalthy before, he'd have been banned and played a lot. even when he was an overpowered ADC in competitive, Kog wasn't banned much because there was a lot of outplay to him and he despite his poke, he didn't have the frustration elements and "unfair feeling" a champion like Ekko or Yasuo gave. if anything, he's much LESS healthy now and way more binary too. AP Kog had so many things to keep his ult. in check and was easily balanced for many seasons with just simple number tweaks:

mana cost and mana increases with each consecutive shot by a lot ^^^this also means that if you miss poke a few times in a row and get hard engaged, you will run out of mana almost immediately
long mana cost reset. timer
range lower at earlier levels
weak laning and needing to buy mana items
low ratios on ult.
Kog himself being squishy and slow with no escape or hard CC