It's moronic that premade reports count individually.

DarwinTheory··1 votes·939 views

Why is this allowed? The majority of my chat bans have come from flex q premade morons. I get into a spat with one and the others join in and I get 3 reports after the game. Any premade reports should count as a SINGLE report. Not multiple.

And don't tell me I should be quite and take it up the ass becuase my idiot jungler decides to invade the enemy jungle 4 minutes into game, feeds my oppressive enemy laner (say Jax) and then bitches at me for not following into enemy territory.

And whilst we are on topic there wouldn't be so many chat bans if RIOT stopped placing idiots in teams through bad matchmaking. It's not rocket science is it?

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Lhuhz6 votes

You haven't read how reports work

DrCyanide3 votes

Multiple reports don't matter for chat. The bot goes through the logs of everyone that was reported at least once, and the number of reports doesn't change the outcome.

Put another way, there's no difference in the outcome if 1 solo player reports, if a 4 man premade reports, or if someone gets 9x reported.

DarwinTheory1 votes

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Multiple reports don't matter for chat. The bot goes through the logs of everyone that was reported at least once, and the number of reports doesn't change the outcome.

Put another way, there's no difference in the outcome if 1 solo player reports, if a 4 man premade reports, or if someone gets 9x reported.

Multiple reports in a game trigger an infringement. Never a single report. 3 infringements in close succession gets you a chat ban. You don't get banned for flaming one game. Or two. But for three.

If one person reports you the system ignores it. If more than one does it's a trigger point. 3 triggers = a ban. And a loss of rewards.

I rarely if ever report because this is a competitive game and only when people become really abusive. I expect heated argument. How you kids going to survive in real life if your boss shouts at you for being dumb? You gonna call RIOT to come cuddle you make you feel better??

But if my bot lane decides to go full r%%%%% and ignore my pings when I see zed from mid roaming there and feed I'm going to ask why they ignored my pings. And if they tell me to shut up noob I am not going to report them but I am going to call them moronic idiots.

Between snowflake children getting 'offended' and RIOTs toxic matchmaking theres a problem. And letting premades gang-up to report is not healthy.

Trollmanship1 votes

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Multiple reports in a game trigger an infringement. Never a single report. 3 infringements in close succession gets you a chat ban. You don't get banned for flaming one game. Or two. But for three.

If one person reports you the system ignores it. If more than one does it's a trigger point. 3 triggers = a ban. And a loss of rewards.

I rarely if ever report because this is a competitive game and only when people become really abusive. I expect heated argument. How you kids going to survive in real life if your boss shouts at you for being dumb? You gonna call riot.........

But if my bot lane decides to go full r%%%%% and ignore my pings when I see zed from mid roaming there and feed I'm going to ask why they ignored my pings. And if they tell me to shut up noob I'm not going to report them but I am going to call them stupid idiots.

Between snowflake children getting 'offended' and RIOTs toxic matchmaking theres a problem. And letting premades gang-up to report is not healthy.

I get reported by 3+ people all the time, it definitely does not trigger an instant punishment.

Premades are cancer but that's why I pretty much only play solo/duo queue.

DrCyanide4 votes

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Multiple reports in a game trigger an infringement. Never a single report. 3 infringements in close succession gets you a chat ban. You don't get banned for flaming one game. Or two. But for three.

If one person reports you the system ignores it. If more than one does it's a trigger point. 3 triggers = a ban. And a loss of rewards.

That's not how it works at all. Multiple reports can be a useful indicator that something is wrong for manually issuing bans (See Support Singed/Nunu), but the chat system is completely automatic. It literally checks "if (reports > 0)"

I rarely if ever report because this is a competitive game and only when people become really abusive. I expect heated argument. How you kids going to survive in real life if your boss shouts at you for being dumb? You gonna call RIOT to come cuddle you make you feel better??

Here you're walking down a familiar fantasy - you've associated yourself with the boss. You're not the boss, you're not a manager, you're a coworker. If a coworker regularly yells at you for no good reason (or goes over the top for a good reason), you tell your boss, and let them decide how to handle it. Which is exactly how Riot's system works. People who ignore the chat restrictions and get bans are exactly like those people who ignore the warnings of their boss and get fired.

Deep Terror Nami3 votes

DrCyanide is correct; multiple reports do not stack or do anything different than a single report.

The Instant Feedback System (IFS) will review a player's chat in that game when any number of reports greater than 0 is made against them (for chat offense categories). It will always do this regardless of how many reports, and the review does not work differently depending on how many, so 1 report is the same as 9 reports in a match. You can check Riot Tantrum's post below where he clarified this point (he wrote the IFS); http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/jmF6VEou-riot-tantram-is-asking-if-the-enemy-is-also-going-to-report-reportable?comment=0003

3 infringements in close succession gets you a chat ban. You don't get banned for flaming one game. Or two. But for three.

I get why you say this, since chat logs will typically show 3 games, but this isn't quite that cut and dry. A chat restriction can (and usually is) an accumulation of many games rather than just 3, you just aren't provided every single game where the system found some negative behavior of yours after a report; it wouldn't be very helpful for the player to be shown games they don't remember or ones that had extremely minor negativity.

A player may also be punished due to fewer than 3 games worth of negative behavior, depending on the severity of their behavior. Someone who has 40 lines of disruptive or abusive chat comms in a single game is probably more likely to be punished for that than someone who has 1 line each over 40 games. And of course, zero tolerance behavior like hate speech can net an escalation to an account ban for a single instance.

I rarely if ever report because this is a competitive game and only when people become really abusive.

That's alright if you don't think another player was problematic for you; if players choose to not report someone's chat, then Riot doesn't have any reason to punish them. However, there are behavior standards in the game which players are expected to abide by, which are basically determined by what Riot and the playerbase at large feels is appropriate for an enjoyable gaming environment. While you don't have to agree with those standards, you still have to abide by them. If you want to chat with your friends in a manner which Riot finds unacceptable, I highly recommend switching to 3rd player comms like any number of VoIP programs available.

And if they tell me to shut up noob I am not going to report them but I am going to call them moronic idiots.

That's not going to help anyone, that just makes people want to avoid you or respond in kind. There has never been a time where that sort of response suddenly made someone untilt and lose tunnel vision.

Saevum1 votes

Is it a Garen For idiots? or is it one Garen and four idiots?

DarwinTheory1 votes

Guess you guys missed the end of season honor and rewards extension because such a large % of players had chat bans. Working as intended?.....or saturated because of kiddie reports? I think the latter don't you? Evidence certainly supports it.

The ban system needs revision. Between snowflake children spam reporting and premades ganging up to report there's a huge problem.

DrCyanide5 votes

The extension was because such a large number of people didn't realize they needed to get to Honor 2, thinking instead they only needed to work off the chat restriction like they had in Prior years. There's no way you could think about using it to compare the number of people who were chat restricted in 2018 to 2017, since it's a completely different condition.

DarwinTheory1 votes

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The extension was because such a large number of people didn't realize they needed to get to Honor 2, thinking instead they only needed to work off the chat restriction like they had in Prior years. There's no way you could think about using it to compare the number of people who were chat restricted in 2018 to 2017, since it's a completely different condition.

Lol that's reaching!!! It had to be the honor right? And whether it is or isn't it tells you that there were so many chat bans people lost rewards. Honor or not. It's irrevelant. They were banned and had a penalty. So much so massive numbers stood to lose rewards and RIOT didn't want to piss off their Yasuo skin buying anime loving user base.

Too many snowflakes who can't take a little critiscm. You know for every chat ban I've had there's probably 5x or 10x as many people who abused me and I didn't report.

And you know why? Because I have a thick skin. I'm not going to be childish enough to exploit a ban system in a heated competitive environment to punish other players. I only ever report inters and people that say the C word and wish people dead.

Other than that flame me all you like. I don't care. RIOT encouraging this snowflake culture just ruins League.

Punishing people with chat bans who are just angry, not toxic, creates inters and trollers. You know, the guys everyone's raging about right now for ruining games.

Which is ironic...........

DrCyanide1 votes

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Lol that's reaching!!! It had to be the honor right? And whether it is or isn't it tells you that there were so many chat bans people lost rewards. Honor or not. It's irrevelant. They were banned and had a penalty. So much so massive numbers stood to lose rewards and RIOT didn't want to piss off their Yasuo skin buying anime loving user base.

Reaching? Hardly. If anything saying it wasn't because of Honor is a reach. Even if you play as little as 1 game a day you can work off a 25 game chat restriction in less then a month. If it was because of those recently chat restricted then the extension would have not have been anywhere near 3 months and it would have only had to do with working off your chat restriction, not with getting to Honor 2. Conversely, there were many people who had gotten a chat restriction months before the season ended, who had changed their behavior, but were still working their way back to Honor 2. The extension only makes sense if it's targeting those kinds of players.

The this relevant because if you ignore it then you can only conclude that Riot chat restricted as many people as they typically chat restrict in 3-4 months in 3-4 days. When you consider that it's honor then you realize that those players weren't banned all at once. You also factor in that most players who get a 10 game chat restriction aren't punished again, and you're looking at a massive population that would be available for rewards in any other year, and an indication that as a whole things are much more similar to previous years.

Too many snowflakes who can't take a little critiscm. You know for every chat ban I've had there's probably 5x or 10x as many people who abused me and I didn't report.

Ah, the "I'm just giving criticism" line, repeated in so many variations, but seen in so few chat logs. Telling someone they suck, spamming their KDA in chat, and arguing with them all game isn't criticism. If you want to be a critic, tell them how they could improve.

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