How exactly does one deal with Mordekaiser having sh!tty HP?

darkdill··2 votes·460 views

Got a Rylai's and Liandry's, and didn't even cross 2500 HP at around level 14. What a joke, and all because Morde's shields forbid him from having even a decent amount of base HP, otherwise "he's too tanky!"

I know Morde requires another rework, but what can one do to ensure he's not so glassy while also making his damage relevant?

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oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

he has lower hp cuz of how he heals... also items like item 3065 or item 3083 are very strong on him

and when i last played vs mord top i was trundle i just wanted him to get more and more hp and def stats...

makes me stronger

and yes i won

darkdill2 votes

Here's the problem with going that much HP: you gimp your damage output.

Or is your logic the "you can't deal damage if you die" type?

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

go item 3116 item 3151 item 3152 item 3068 item 3065 item 1001

ton of damage, slow, magic pen, hp, some armor and mr and regen let alone the active from item 3152 to dash to catch or escape

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

Strength of the Ages (with Tenacious) isn't a bad combination on him for durability and mobility.

Malicious Metal1 votes

Too bad they're removing it....

Makior721 votes

cool down reduction + spell vamp. His tankyness comes from his lifesteal/spell vamp and ability to use shields, not actual tankiness, also get a spirit visage to amplify the spell vamp.

item 3001 item 3065 item 3116 item 3020 item 3146 item 3157

PermabannedGaren1 votes

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Got a Rylai's and Liandry's, and didn't even cross 2500 HP at around level 14. What a joke, and all because Morde's shields forbid him from having even a decent amount of base HP, otherwise "he's too tanky!"

I know Morde requires another rework, but what can one do to ensure he's not so glassy while also making his damage relevant?

item 3116 item 3053 item 3111 item 3068 item 3065 item 3742

A Mordekaiser with a build like this is arguably the tankiest champion in the game, while also putting out enough damage to kill carries solo. Seriously, I've done the math, with just a Sterak's Gage (I didn't factor in Rylai's) his every ability he has casted once nearly 100-0's an ADC who didn't buy MR. If you consider he could cast his Q and E twice, the sunfire burn, and normal auto attacks, he would easily 100-0 them. Rylai's makes it so that he can kill them even more easily.

Mordekaiser has shitty base tank stats because he has arguably the best tank steroid in the game.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

i kind like my build better

item 3116 item 3151 item 3065 item 3068 item 3152

PermabannedGaren1 votes

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i kind like my build better

item 3116 item 3151 item 3065 item 3068 item 3152

Not tanky enough. Sterak's is non-negotiable IMHO.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

hmm ok 400hp+300hp+300hp+ 500hp+ 500hp = 2000hp from items

isnt mords normal runes are magic pen reds, hp seals, ap quints/ or ms quints and cdr blues ?

so if he runs hp seals that is +216 hp at lvl 18 for 2216 hp at lvl 18 plus his 1766 giving him a total of 3982 hp

plus you get 240 ap from items with the passive slows, magic pen, dot hp% damage aoe damage and the active of protobelt

plus the mr and armor from the sunfire and spirit visage and the increased hp regen plus the 20% cd

seems ok to me

PermabannedGaren1 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OvcfBqjs,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2016-10-22T21:55:09.341+0000)

hmm ok 400hp+300hp+300hp+ 500hp+ 500hp = 2000hp from items

isnt mords normal runes are magic pen reds, hp seals, ap quints/ or ms quints and cdr blues ?

so if he runs hp seals that is +216 hp at lvl 18 for 2216 hp at lvl 18 plus his 1766 giving him a total of 3982 hp

plus you get 240 ap from items with the passive slows, magic pen, dot hp% damage aoe damage and the active of protobelt

plus the mr and armor from the sunfire and spirit visage and the increased hp regen plus the 20% cd

seems ok to me

The difference is my build has more resistances, more health, and has a big fucking shield that increases Mordekaiser's base AD (the highest in the game) by a percentage. Mordekaiser has so much damage built into his kit that it's better to bulk up and be hard to focus down than to build damage.

Your build's not bad though. It's better than a lot of dumb builds that go full glass cannon.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

it dont matter i just play Trundle vs Mordekaiser and win

DarkRitual1 votes

Malicious Metal goes Rylai's, Sterak's, and Gunblade. I'd trust his build pretty solidly.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

yea but trundle counters mord ... he heals justas much as mord does, is a great duelist and his Q steal ad from mord... and his ult steals mords resistance basically a counter to mords ult plus the pillar is good to get away from mord or to keep mord from escaping

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