"Now that the game is in a decent place

Dingding123··4 votes·313 views

we can spend time gutting more champions that aren't named Lee Sin or Zed," - Riot Games 2015.

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Dominnion3 votes

"Now that my champion got nerfed

I can spend time going to the boards and complaining" -Dingding123 2015

Dingding1231 votes

I don't play as any of these champions.

FHMarshy1 votes

Lee and Zed both has lower than 50% win rate, why are u still complaining?

Dingding1232 votes

Because over 50% of the people playing as them are toxic and cancer and the rest want to win

FHMarshy1 votes

So you are generalizing player's character judging by the champions they play? Damn that's some study i'd wanna read up on, except i doubt you have anything other than your own emotion to prove that

Besides, how does gutting them have anything to do with the behaviors of the players that play them?

If riot guts those 2, most likely the players you are talking about will pick someone else and be toxic and cancer on them.

Dingding1232 votes

we'll see diversity then or they'll get bored and leave league altogether really win-win there

FHMarshy2 votes

So you basically is calling for a nerf on Lee and Zed FOR the players that are playing them, not because of their kit as a champion then.....

lol

Dingding1232 votes

that's a big perk yes the point though is that there aren't many other champions people care about about right now

Docrato2 votes

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Lee and Zed both has lower than 50% win rate, why are u still complaining?

Win rates are not an accurate statistic to a champions kit. Lee sins kit is strong. So is zeds. Remember when assassins where high risk high reward? Well that rule doesnt apply to zed. You can safely poke from afar and when they're low enough you ult to get the easy kill.

FHMarshy1 votes

Ya great, their kits are awesome, but THEY DON'T WIN. What else matters more than win? please do tell me

You rank up not from your KDA, you rank up from wins.

Lee, you NEED to land your Q to actually do ANYTHING. You need to position right to kick in the right direction. You need wards in order to be mobile. If you are scared of him so much, buy a ward or two, he won't be able to do much.

Zed, safe poke? Melee champion with a skill shot. Fine, if you say the shadow allows him to poke safely, it has an incredibly long cool down early levels and basically denies him any sort of escape if it's on CD. His ult is literally nullified by Zhonya's.

I can agree with your point on good kit, but both champs are easily countered with the right tactics and mechanics.

What else tells more about a champion than win rate when both are so commonly picked? The below average win rate basically means more than half of the time someone picked Lee or Zed, their team loses.

Dingding1231 votes

they're played all the time that's why they don't have a good winrate everyone knows how to not feed Lee Sin and Zed by now also everyone wants to play as them regardless of how good at them they are

FHMarshy1 votes

then why are people still calling for nerf if they can be countered

Dingding1231 votes

because they aren't being countered bad ones are being handled

FHMarshy1 votes

So more than likely you will be met with a bad one and you should be handling them, which will most likely give you a win since more than half of them time they got played, they lose.

Also, ok Zed isn't being countered? Malzahar Lissandra ?item 3157 ?

His Q is a dodgable skill shot, if he uses clone,which has a rather long CD, to harrass, he will lose mobility and is easily ganked.

Lee, again, dodgable Q skill shot. Easy counter if wards are put in place and plays are made in accordance to sighting him. He can basically do nothing unless he has position over you.

Both are easily counterable.

Besides, you mentioned yourself that people know how NOT to feed them. How are they even a problem the?

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