With Zoe's OP status diminished

Dope Solo·Feb 24, 2018·4 votes·399 views

I can actually respect anyone that picks her up and just wants to get good without relying on chunk damage. GG riot .

16 Comments

OnotoriFeb 24, 20183 votes

Zoe was never OP in the slightest. She was a bit frustrating if you never bothered to learn how her kit works, sure, but she wasn't broken. In fact, I don't think she ever had a higher than 50% winrate.

And there's no point to picking her up now, since literally every mid is better.

Only FabioFeb 24, 20182 votes

This was false in the fact of being hit behind minions from a slight distance on a melee champion by q for just trying to cs. Her initial kit having a very low skill floor which meant everyone can just pick her up without to much practice. She was incredibly toxic to competitive play as seen in the lck where they instantly counter picked with malzahar. Her main problems were taken care of this patch and every zoe main is doing just fine after the nerfs. (aka sleep q sleep.) She still has her power to burst someone down with a single ability while keeping her pressure in lane if a jungler plays around her sleep.

OnotoriFeb 24, 20182 votes

I mean, I've literally never lost a lane to Zoe, no matter who I was playing. I've also never died to Zoe solo. So, if I can do that, why can no one else?

And she has no lane pressure now. She can't clear waves at all, and she absolutely doesn't burst people anymore. Best you can do is farm under tower and hope your jungler camps you, or you lose lane. You can't roam anymore either.

Only FabioFeb 24, 20182 votes

if they want to wave clear, thereare items for it such as protobelt, ludens or glp which all enable wave clear.

OnotoriFeb 24, 20181 votes

So, by that logic, we should nerf all mid laners since they waveclear too well and can use those items too.

Only FabioFeb 24, 20181 votes

do you see irelia and jax complaining that they have to build Tiamat. So by that logic, build an item to wave clear.

OnotoriFeb 24, 20181 votes

Irelia and Jax don't die in two hits like Zoe does.

Dope SoloFeb 24, 20181 votes

Like any other mage.

OnotoriFeb 24, 20181 votes

Any other mage has very good waveclear.

Only FabioFeb 24, 20181 votes

position better.

vgamedudeFeb 24, 20182 votes

She wasn't op in the first place. Her winrate was literally 50 percent or less. Now she's gutted

BodhwellFeb 24, 20182 votes

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Nanuk PihoqahiakFeb 24, 20181 votes

The hyperbole in this post is through the ceiling.

AzadetheFeb 24, 20181 votes

The irony is post nerf, Pros are actually pushing their win rate with her up to 54%, when it was only 49.6% with the incarnation before this nerf.

Now..... they're playing her like Leblance; get close, in/skill/out. They're pretty much using Spellbinder to give back what they lost on pumped auto attack attributes.

PeachyPosteriorFeb 24, 20181 votes

Her kit is still fun to play even with the reduced damage, although it is far less satisfying, but her wave clear is awful.

I'll be happy as long as she gets her wave clear back, but I would like to see a bit more damage added to her Q. It doesn't need to 100-0 people, but they did nerf her hard.

I really like that cleans and QSS can remove her stun. I think it makes for an overall fair game play.

lilpokflufFeb 24, 20181 votes

She really isn't that bad... play her more. She's probably gonna get some compensation buffs maybe to Q but if this last change is any indicator they'll probably continue to increase her passive and W damage. These types of changes make meta players jump off wagon, we've seen it before with Taliyah and we're probably gonna see it with Sion when they figure out what to do. Champs come and go, she's gonna get buffs eventually.