Its Time Something Has to be Done With Rylais.

Jubilee Phoenix··2 votes·1,124 views

Rylais is just really broken right now. It's giving better slows them most champions have in there kit. And all the meta mages right now bay this broken item. Remember DFG and why it so removed? It because it was giving much power with no couther play; That's what Rylais is doing right now. Riot, you keep nerfing the champions that use this item and not the item itself. I think Riot should remove it from the game.

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Calabok4 votes

It isn't broken. Stop being biased

redfeenix2 votes

Solution ? Remove all slows from champion kits to Buff rylais. If you wanna slow someone you must by rylais or mallet now

Jubilee Phoenix1 votes

Heres the thing, most champions only have 2 slows in there kit. Now with Rylais all there spells slow. Isn't that great to play against?

redfeenix1 votes

I think only cc heavy champs like ash or send have slows in their kit, let alone multiple slows. In fact I can't think. Of a champ with two slows in their kit.... Could you remind me please ?

But I agree rylais makes some champs op af. Esp with spamming skills. A notable example is Cassiopeia. She gets a loooot of utility after rylais as her 1 second twin fang slows

In2TheRainYires1 votes

Rumble has 2 slows in his kit.

Erockandroll2 votes

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Solution ? Remove all slows from champion kits to Buff rylais. If you wanna slow someone you must by rylais or mallet now

Ultimately, the Slows did get nerfed when buffed Crystal Scepter. Particularly the way slows stack. (i.e. they don't anymore) And that was supposedly holding Crystal scepter back. (Because if scepter slow stacked with the slow from another mage, it would have been way ware oppressive)

I wouldn't think you should simply remove all slows. (That would take away from some of the more unique mechanics form certain champs.) Though I would argue that Crystal Scepter shouldn't completely out shine those champs either.

I see two potential problems. 1) Rylie's slow really is powerful enough to out shine other champs and dictate the meta. or 2) There's not a large enough opportunity cost building Crystal scepter over another item. (too gold efficient, too slot efficient, etc)

Marshbouy2 votes

item 3009 ?

Jubilee Phoenix1 votes

And how builds that hows name isn't Hecarim ?

Marshbouy2 votes

what are you saying?

redfeenix5 votes

He thinks only hecarim builds that. I disagree though I think swifties arw great on many champs that reply on ms, like garen and sometimez even TF

Marshbouy1 votes

that's demonstrably incorrect. what is he thinking xD

ChaddyFantome2 votes

While I agree with your concerns of Rylai's, this bit about switfies only got by heck is just stupid. You just jumped the shark buddy.

MisterShameless1 votes

Doesn't Thresh and Blitz still build mobo boots?

MohawkBird1 votes

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Marshbouy1 votes

a 900 item should not be able to completely counter a 3200 one

MohawkBird1 votes

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Marshbouy1 votes

its better than nothing.

ZapMyHeart2 votes

Considering that majority of mages are immobile, Rylai's is a way to counter high mobility champions.

Jubilee Phoenix1 votes

There nothing stopping them from just dushing away. In fact Rylais is doing the opposite of what it's supposed to do.

ZapMyHeart1 votes

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There nothing stopping them from just dushing away. In fact Rylais is doing the opposite of what it's supposed to do.

So let's buff Rylai's to 99% slow then because obviously it's not doing its job then.

The purpose of Rylai's is to provide some survivability to mages from the onslaught of broken hyper mobile champs in the roster, while keeping their mobility in check. Just because the champion can use their dash, the slow effect is still prevalent, allowing either the mage or their teammates to catch up.

But since you said it doesn't stop them from dashing away, let's slap on a grounded effect for 10s to Ryali's as well.

Jubilee Phoenix2 votes

Rylais is not hurting mobility champions, it's hurting the immobile champios.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

buy item 3009 item 3140 or items that boost your movment speed. summoner 1

Magik Digitz1 votes

This has been the most intriguing argument I have ever ready for nerfing/ deleting an item I have ever read. I would like to here more..

RookPusher1 votes

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Rylais is just really broken right now. It's giving better slows them most champions have in there kit. And all the meta mages right now bay this broken item. Remember DFG and why it so removed? It because it was giving much power with no couther play; That's what Rylais is doing right now. Riot, you keep nerfing the champions that use this item and not the item itself. I think Riot should remove it from the game.

How's that an argument? Generally acquirable slows are better than privatized slows.

Jubilee Phoenix1 votes

But the slow Rylais gives is permanent, the others only is you one slow and have cooldowns.

Votable Jester1 votes

Ashe

ZapMyHeart1 votes

Then you need to buy a Banshee's or QSS if that is an issue with you.

Mages only have 4 abilities to apply the slow with, so the slow itself is not permanent (plus the diminishing effect of CC stacking) unlike the AD versions of Mallet/Gauntlet. A good portion of the abilities are skillshots as well, so it's dodgeable.

Jubilee Phoenix1 votes

Ok people, if the anti-slow tools work so well, then please tell me why all the meta mages build Rylais?

Erockandroll1 votes

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Ok people, if the anti-slow tools work so well, then please tell me why all the meta mages build Rylais?

Looking at the LCS, the Meta mages are basically Viktor and Azir. And when I look at their kits, I simply find that they synergize too well with Rylais.

For Azir, it should be obvious. His sand soldiers apply spell effect on his AA. and as a result, apply the slow constantly. Giving him way better zone control. And for Viktor, it's all in his ult. Since they changed his ult to be more DPS oriented, Rylais became important for keep his opponents in the electric field.

But this doesn't give us the direction of the relationship. Is Rylais being abused because Azir and Viktor are OP? Or is Azir and Viktor being favored because Rylais is OP?

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