With the removal of mana pots are you going to change all the mana costs or just its itemization?

[Mortal Reminder]

Fuck.

And please less energy regen for Zed?

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Some adjustments to base stats on some characters and more appealing refillable flask options are where we're starting. Additional changes then as needed (preseason tends to be a bit chaotic and all, so various things will need reactive follow up).

But...junglers can't start Flask.

If you buff a jungler's base stats too much to compensate for the lack of potions, you'll probably make them harder to lane against...

So a flask more focused on mana?

Because right now, flask is focused almost entirely on additional health sustain, and the mana is just a bonus.

Meddler,

I'm really hoping that you apply these base stats and changes to my mid if you intend to follow through with this. I'd be oom for days with no mana pot. My jangle may not always be willing to hand me blue and it's not always viable to go on an adventure to blue :(

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Some adjustments to base stats on some characters and more appealing refillable flask options are where we're starting. Additional changes then as needed (preseason tends to be a bit chaotic and all, so various things will need reactive follow up).

Everyone who uses mana is gonna need compensation. Event mid lane mage I use needs it and evry support does to you guys are just fucking everyone over

are you looking into base mana, base mana regen or both?

@Meddler Hey, this is kind of an old thread, but can I ask you why Yorick didn't get any mana compensation buffs? He's in my experience one of the most mana-hungry champs there is, and I buy mana pots with him throughout the game - early, mid, and late game.

And I know a lot of Yorick players like to build straight into Sapphire Crystal and many times don't go with a "starting item" so even if the new starting items might help, it's unfortunate that he will be forced into it at that point.

I know he's not the most exciting champion, and a lot of people forget about him (which is why he didn't get a buff..?) so please help !!! There are far less mana-hungry champions that received buffs while this guy didn't. Can you fix that?

You missed Karthus I mean really why didn't Karthus get at least 100 bonous starting mana and plus 3% mana regen.

was the key to my build to save gold on pots and to let me use Q over ignite this is not funny.

Now Kathus is even worse plus you removed the best item form his sugested items. pleas fix Karthus and stop ignoring him.