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Holy crap, Does the balance team play this game in any capacity other than ADCs and Assassins?

Hammermancer··2 votes·648 views

Ok seriously, No mobility, nerfing triforce into yet another adc item... a lane that consists of auto attacks so varied that i'm sure there are about two to three times the amount of items for adcs than anyone else.

Tanks getting the shaft yet again with boot speed reduction, and triforce made to be an on hit aa champ only item.

Recently nerfed the iceborn because adcs were building it....

Seriously riot if i wanted to build a phage on an adc i'd just build a cleaver

It's getting ridiculous this game hasn't been balanced for the entire patch.... last season was awesome.. even in the juggernaut hell phase.

I'm seriously at the point where i'm starting to think adcs need their own type of ad that they scale off of better... something like accuracy? A combo of damage and crit chance to put on the adc items...

You got rid of devourer because it was considered unhealthy... but you also nerfed it back in the day because it was considered unhealthy on ranged attack damage champions, and now the effect is on an item tailored to ranged attack damage champions.

You rework champions into things alien and unfun... see new shen, or new quinn.

I'm seriously just wondering if i'm playing the same game anymore. ...

See i haven't ever complained on these forums, but i've put money into your company, we all have, And i'm seriously done with this patch... Fix your team riot, they're doing a bad job this patch, the game is less enjoyable. Cuing up is less enjoyable. Having a main is less enjoyable, and having multiple mains is less enjoyable.

Sick of seeing a champion get some needed attention (Lets look at malzahar), then getting so overbuffed they're basically removed from the game via ban rates, then getting so nerfed that they wind up worse than they were before the rework.

Also give up on ryze... he's fine.. he can work now...

TL;DR Just stop riot, you suck... you're worse at balancing this game than i am at playing it

10 Comments

Rysophage5 votes

You do realize that adcs are mostly complete garbage right? Tanks are bullshit right now. they build HP and armor and do %HP damage without building actual damage. They removed QSS from the game pretty much so now zed has to be perma banned or the game's gonna be a 4v5. Most adcs cant deal with a volibear with Cinderhulk and Deadmans AT ALL. or any champion because those items are cancer.

Sahn Uzal2 votes

I know for a fact that Riot Sotere, who is on the balance team, plays toplane (Maokai and GP) and support. So that's your awnser :l

Hammermancer1 votes

I feel like the rest are just fighting over playing zed or lucian

And quite frankly if they're going to facilitate the game in such a state that only 20-30 of the champions on the roster are even acceptable for half of the player base.. can we switch up which champions are on top?

wouldn't mind seeing yorick played again..

CerealBoxOfDoom2 votes

whatever will those poor tanks do now that triforce no longer giv es them crits!

OH WAIT...

Hammermancer1 votes

you do know that you can just kind of... walk away from most tanks

Vesarixx1 votes

Amumu Alistar Blitzcrank Darius DrMundo Ekko Galio Hecarim JarvanIV Malphite Maokai Nunu Rammus Shen TahmKench Sion Singed Zac Nautilus

Slows, snares, taunts, pulls, knockups, created terrain and movespeed buffs, good luck just walking away

CerealBoxOfDoom2 votes

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you do know that you can just kind of... walk away from most tanks

w0t m8...

Mistress Shyvana1 votes

I agree balance is pretty ass. But there's so many things to balance and interactions to take into consideration.

I think that if Riot threw around melee only tags for items more often on like black cleaver, frozen mallet, ice born and duskblade it wouldn't be so bad as they wouldn't have to balance around adc's that can abuse.

EDIT:Vice versa for ranged only items,

Bellmo1 votes

idk what kind of game you play but tanks getting nerfed or a reason. also iceborn was nerfed for it and not because adc were buying it. also devourer wasnt removed because of ranged champs, more like because it was toxic in combination with rageblade on stuff like yi etc. also triforce got more useful on more than just corki and gp.

JustMonika131 votes

First of all, Triforce having Crits removed turned it back into a bruiser item like it was made to be in the first place. People like Irelia, Shyvana, and Jax and the like do NOT really appreciate RNG crits-- they like hitting hard consistently at a faster rate. Attack speed being boosted on this item helps with that. Triforce originally did not have 20% crit, it just had 10, but it was raised to 20% in the marksmen update along with Zeal's.

The one ADC Triforce was core on, Corki, has suffered greatly from this change and he'll probably be getting some buffs thrown at him in the next few patches since he was suffering already, and the Triforce change just sealed the deal

Second of all... the reason Riot is so cautious in balancing (note: I say balancing, not nerfing and/or buffing) Assassins and Marksmen is simple: if they over do it with the nerfs and take away their one reason for existence, this little thing called "damage", then they're worthless at that point. Most of them don't have much in the way of utility, they can't really help their team engage or disengage apart from picking off a carry once they get a chance to. Tanks have some of the strongest CC in the game. Tanks have tons of abilities with picking potential. Tanks have strong engages and/or disengages. Some tanky champions can even deal consistent damage. This is without considering the fact that they can, you know, act as tanks for their team to mitigate damage on the carries. I mean yes, there are a few out there that can pretty consistently create picks: Jhin with W and Ult, Quinn by being Quinn, Varus with his Ult, but Tanks (and Mages) simply do this better most of the time. This is why often times damage dealers causing problems get some bases nerfed but are then given a condition they have to meet in order to deal more damage as a reward for meeting that condition; it's why Zed now deals more damage for landing 2 or 3 shuriken and why Kindred now has to farm for at least 9 marks in game so that their Q reaches the damage it had before having its base gutted. It's also why some tanks can afford having their bases lowered, because they're still useful anyways.

"But theses Assassins be one-shotting meh as a squishy and that shouldn't habben herp derp!" Well yeah... Assassins' one job is to take the carries out of the picture in hopefully one rotation, otherwise, again, they're worthless.

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