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Randomonium5 votes

I like to break down games into 5 types:

Type 5: 20% of the time the enemy team is way better than your team (this includes games with feeders/trolls on your team.) These games are pretty much automatic losses.

Type 4: 20% of the time the enemy team is, on average, better than your team. In these games the only way you win is if you absolutely hard carry the game (i.e. high cs, high KDA, high kill participation, high number of objectives destroyed.)

Type 3: 20% of the time the teams are evenly matched. Whether or not you win these games is dependent upon whether you play better or worse than the average person at your elo.

Type 2: 20% of the time your team is, on average, better than the enemy team. In these games you just have to play smart and you'll win (i.e. not suicide, flame your team, throw at baron, etc.)

Type 1: 20% of the time your team is way better than the enemy team (this includes games with feeders/troll on the enemy team.) These games are pretty much automatic wins as long as you don't troll/afk.

If you win all of your Type 1 and Type 2 games that puts you automatically at a 40% win rate. Next, if you win the majority of your Type 3 games that will put you above a 50% win rate and you will climb. The reason why so many people have difficulty climbing is they go on tilt after losing a Type 4 or Type 5 game and they carry that anger into subsequent games, play worse than normal, and lose a Type 1, Type 2, or Type 3 game that they could have won had they not been on tilt.

LF Annie1 votes

such this ^

Xikini3 votes

Your farm is fairly low is both of these matches. Low farm = less item = less chance to pull ahead = more chance for your team to feed.

ItsOrval3 votes

One does not simply farm when bot lane loses lane twice in a row at 6 minute mark then their adc and support decides to go mid.

Qualtar1 votes

i dont see your point i have seen bjergsen be 4 man ganked every 5min and he still comes out with good cs dont make an excuse on why you cant cs right.

Quil Evrything1 votes

i've seen shaq dunk, like 10 times in a game. so dont make excuses. Go do some dunks.

Penns2 votes

To be fair, its pretty hard to just farm in low elo where you have to babysit your team 24/7 so they dont die and lose you the game because you cant 1v5. Luckily Ive never been in bronze on any of my accounts but playing with a bronze friend and getting matched with bronze teammates can be.. annoying sometimes lol.

ItsOrval2 votes

https://s12.postimg.org/bpk26bza5/Screenshot_70.png

Damn you were right dude. Getting farm actually does win games with feeders on your team. Thanks for the advice.

nm10102 votes

Your stats in gold:

https://i.gyazo.com/1f013f1852af296acd67dbd24efdca98.png

My stats in gold:

https://i.gyazo.com/c0a5e382f18bacbc83e8cbc918fdf716.png

One of the talon games was a 3v5, maybe if you stopped complaining about your team so much you would win games :^)

ItsOrval2 votes

You have hardly any games played. Also you took the stats from the wrong user, this account is perma banned. Notice last game played is in September i think

nm10102 votes

I picked the account closest to you, feel free to link the actual account and I can give you a better estimate. I have ~half a dozen spread around gold-diamond.

The number of games hardly matters, this is my main lol:

https://i.gyazo.com/8cd469cc7c97a1fbb993152cef5bb4bb.png

ItsOrval1 votes

The number of games do matter lol. If you had a 65% winrate with 182 games on a champion then id be impressed.

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=PlaySmartDieDumb

This is my main account now, and is my first account created. Also when I came back to this account in September I already had shit mmr and tons of games on it beens its the account I started playing this game with. I went from Silver V to Gold 3 in 2 weeks, but now im stuck here because I keep getting kids who troll in this game. Not much a top laner can do to stop bot lane from feeding besides Teleporting down there. But then when you do that, bot has to survive 3 minutes without you again.

nm10101 votes

Quality over quantity my friend if I played another 182 games I'd be masters lol .

You are one of those players I see, I watched about 10 minutes of your gameplay and have a decent grasp on what you do. You play some champ with decent early aggression and just try to fight the other guy. If you lose that fight you get wrecked most of the time, if you win you snowball pretty decently. You don't know basic things like graves can't shoot you through towers or that if kled q's a minion when dismounted you basically are free to beat the hell out of him.

Case and point the rumble game you got into a fight with riven and had 0 idea what her cooldowns were. You missed 2 opportunities to kill her and died for it. Then you tp'd back into a huge minion line and got chunked to half for 0 reason. The yasuo game after that you lost trades to kled and blew flash going into his jungle without any vision and died. You tp back into a lane that was slow pushing to you (aka waste tp). You take a bad dash into kled, lose half your hp, and kled gets to roam and kill your team since you can't push now.

That all being said you are the stereotypical plat 5 player, throw in another 500 games and you will probably get there.

ItsOrval1 votes

Itd be better if you watched my Jayce games and not my Rumble and Yasuo games. I legit just got those champs 1 or 2 days ago and just tried them out. Also one of those games I was trolling because Riot was giving me shit games because i went on a 16 win streak 2 days ago.

nm10101 votes

I watched a Jayce game

https://i.gyazo.com/69fbd5c565694f5184b5317cccf21f4d.png

You let naut shove you for free the early lane without harassing him with autos (or even autoing to counter push). Once you hit level 3 though you immediatly try the Jayce all in combo (that naut survives easily). You dick around for a bit with no mana instead of backing with 1100 gold even though naut backed. Vi ganks and you guys try again (and he lives again) then after almost a full minute of aggression graves and talon counter ganks the third attempt to kill you and vi.

Talon just sits under tower with 1/2 hp while you tp and you get a free kill, but then you facecheck graves in a bush and he dives you. You would've killed him, but you melee q'd on to him to suicide instead of hiding behind the tower (he can't hit you behind the tower as I mentioned before). This not only feeds graves more, but gives him first tower which is a huge detriment to your team.

You get a hexdrinker first for some reason when you've died to graves talon? The rest of the game you either over extend top with no wards or tower and die. Or you trade kills randomly roaming around the map, not really helping your team. you placed 7 wards in 30 minutes and most of them were to chase someone into a bush, not to act as a defense to ganks.

ItsOrval1 votes

Naut is my hardest matchup as Jayce. Every time Ive faced him ive lost lane. He does a shit ton of damage to me, and takes no damage. Hence why I bought Hexdrinker. I didnt place wards because I was always pushed to tower, even if I did id still die to Graves and Talon going through jungle to get me.

nm10101 votes

Jayce beats naut in lane pretty hard, then he pretty much steamrolls you in teamfights. Naut did the least damage in the entire game, doing almost half as much as the next lowest person. Your hexdrinker was literally next to a worthless buy.

(Rationalization for not warding that sounds more silver than plat like I previously estimated you to end up)

Even if they were coming from the jungle (talon did come over a jungle wall and was counterganking you after were trying to gank naut with vi) you could still place a ward to see them so that you can get under tower to try to outplay them.

I mean if you actually believe you are contributing more than anyone else in these games you are either ver ignorant of how wins actually occur, or you are very delusional. If you want to win more you need to know your match up, win that match up, and then rotate (or splitpush) and bring your lead to your other lanes.

Brain Errör 4041 votes

You seem to know what you're talking about and have a really good grasp at the game. Could you teach me how to actually carry games? I think I have decent mechanics, lane control and wave management. I can also play from behind, but get pretty tilted because I actually have to carry teams 85% of the time and it's very discomforting that I normally get matched with the "worse off" teammates.

I'm asking because I don't know how to quickly force games in my favor before my teammates make it impossible to win.

nm10101 votes

Quick pointers just from your match history, cut back on champs (you have 8 different champs in your last 10 games) and don't feel like you need to "force" wins. If you get a lead and play smart wins will just fall into your lap, people make tons of mistakes even in diamond. If you don't tilt and punish enemy mistakes then you can win games easily.

Feel free to add me on league and I can take a look at some games later.

Brain Errör 4041 votes

Alrigthy, thanks and will do~

Zelorxon1 votes

https://clips.twitch.tv/iwilldominate/ThoughtfulCockroachOptimizePrime

-edit- AAAAAND THEN THERE IS THE FUCKING RETARD THAT PLAYS URGOT AND HAS 1/2 OF THE FARM HE'S SUPPOSED TO HAVE, FUCK LEAGUE, FUCK MY LIFE, FUCK EVERYTHING THAT EXISTS. And fuck me when i click images or i reply to stuff online.

ItsOrval2 votes

One does not simply farm when bot lane loses lane twice in a row at 6 minute mark then their adc and support decides to go mid.

GULAG 4 U1 votes

Yo orval, I have the same situation. I get it. It happens to us all the time and that sucks. But guess what. It's possible to kharry shitty teams. For example, somwhere deep in my OP GG, you'll see a master yi game where

I had 33 kills and 3 assists and that was 88% KP.

In other words, -Midlaner int feeded -bot feeded 18 kills to mf 0/8/11 adc 3/6/18 sup (decent player) 1/7/1 illaoi lost lane to malphite. : ^)^))^)^)^)^)^)^)?>>>???:^?^:^:^:^??^^???

we won that game. It's def possible to carry garbage teams, it's just that it takes _effort. _

JavelinJoe1 votes

+10 points for picture 1 -20 points for the post being just 3 pictures

ItsOrval2 votes

At least I got 10

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