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Maple Crusader··18 votes·1,257 views

Post your unpopular ideas here.

Soraka I honestly wish that people stop whining that she's "OP" and I hope that Riot stops nerfing her. Brand I really think he's really annoying as a support. I would rather deal with a mid Brand. Velkoz ^ item 3070 I hope they change this item's passive and the branching items due to how fast games end Azir He really feels meh currently. Zed He isn't the most annoying champ and I don't hate the fact that he's popular Anivia I hate laning against Anivia Viktor Changing the targeting arrow for his Death Ray was a terrible idea Draven I prefer Draven's old passive. Darius He was over-nerfed Fiora Her ult's healing aura was a good idea, but on the wrong champ Shyvana Her ult should make her invulnerable to CC when she is in flight Annie Her ult shouldn't be instant Sona I wish she wasn't nerfed when she got her Model upgrade item 2033 I miss Flask item 3341 It is barely usable against Stealth enemies Gangplank I hate his stacking mechanic. I get stuck in a Catch-22: either I farm Silver Serpents and leave my team 4v5, or I go help my team and neglect the stacks for my ult. Varus I find him unreliable as a champ Ezreal ^ Lux I don't find Lux's laugh that irritating. Nunu/Willump's chortle is more aggravating. Fizz He will always be a pain in the ass item 1054 This item is really crappy item 1403 This enchantment is really risky to use right now. Kassadin He got the short end of the stick when he got his VU Singed ^ Alistar ^ JarvanIV His ult should have been updated to work like Azir's.

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Slamurai Jack9 votes

I'd post my actual unpopular opinions, but I don't feel like farming downvotes.

Akali is SO HOT3 votes

Same

Athenes Lulu1 votes

Or yolo and post yours, I was actually expecting to farm some simply because of my anti-solo Lulu opinions.

shyv6 votes

Riven is fucking garbage and i don't know why everyone complains about her so much

Chespin20131 votes

Because her kit is unhealthy and has very little trade offs. Not saying she is OP or anything but you have to admit she is a problematic champion to play against not to mention balance.

I Miss Cannon3 votes

Bronze people just hate lanebullies like Riven, Renekton, Leblanc, Zed because they would never ever bother buying Dorans Shield but rather "muh i need damage let's get Dblade against Riven even though i'm Gangplank and have absolutely zero chance of outtrading her early".

shyv1 votes

Lmao basically. Like everyone in my elo always first picks riven for some terrible reason so it's like.. pick someone tank / offtank, all i need is armor & pots and i'll farm under turret the entire laning phase. meanwhile she gets no farm because she's always pushed and has no idea how to freeze lane. riven players are awful.

Maple Crusader1 votes

Why would you get Doran's shield vs Leblanc?

Akali is SO HOT3 votes

Her kit is fine Bronzies and Silvers just don't enjoy dying instantly when they insist on building full offense against a Riven they died to 5 times already. They also think it's a great idea to go afk during a level 2 trade against her and wonder what happened to their health bars and then go cry about it because Riven is overpowered.

Chespin20131 votes

Her kit is not fine. She has very little drawbacks and is balanced around a bug on her that is the definition of something that is not fine. Is Riven weak right now? Yes. Is her kit healthy? No. There is a reason why there was a rework on the pbe a few months ago. The only reason why they took it off was because they were unsure about it so they are probably working more so that she would feel more balanced. IDK where you are going with the elo argument even LCS players have problems with facing against her. I may be low elo but I'm not one of those idiots that keeps building offensive items when I'm 0-5. I play safe, I ward, and I make a effort to learn more about the game. I just find playing rank is not fun for me and that I enjoy playing norms more since there is less stress involved. IDK where you are going with also with low elo players going afk that happens at all elos especially at diamond and above. I even seen LCS players saying "Open Mid" when their games get snowballed out of control and just straight up afking at fountain.

Akali is SO HOT3 votes

I don't think you processed anything I wrote correctly

S H A Y C 01 votes

thats a popular opinion..follow the rules

Myrmiron1 votes

+1

Athenes Lulu5 votes

Vayne ADC "mains" are actually nice as long as you babysit them properly. Riven Riven "mains" are actually not as toxic as what people think. Lulu Lulu top/mid sucks and screws up team comps more often than you think, especially in soloQ. Quinn Quinn botlane is legit as fuck, especially when paired with a backline support. Kindred ^ Sona Sona doesn't need buffs, but rather a rework. MissFortune MF has been a viable pick LONG before any of her reworks last season. Kalista Kalista is more feast/famine than Draaaaven Lulu Lulu support is powerful when played in the right hands.... and with an ADC who is also played in the right hands. Nami ^ KogMaw Koggy is actually not garbage, he literally just need a few items and can right click for doubles/triples Leona Is almost as infuriating to go against as Blitz is

#opinion

EcchiOtakuTM1 votes

There's an actual graph and riven players tend to be the most toxic champion played not saying all are but it's highly likely a riven will be toxic.

Lulu mid/top only works in premade teams.

Quinn got a buff for a blind that actually works vs ranged ofc she would

And yea sona does need a rework I love her auras but if that's what's keeping her back from being cool (not saying she's weak or strong) I'd rather her have a rework.

MF before her buffs/rework was viable but nothing special now she can actually be her wombo combo self and easily stoppable for it.

Kalista was nerfed severly although she's the only champion i hate in league I can't stand to see my most hated champion be so weak. Kinda like a super villain who doesn't want their enemy too weak or there was no point to being the villain in the first place. i guess like batman and joker? ok this is going too far dam you kalista!

Same with most supports and the underplayed poppy support who is pretty godlike if practiced and played right.

Koggy wasn't good cause he lacks anything early game all for late game which wasn't happening if they just increased the flat amount on W by 1 or 2% he'd be back in a good spot

Leona is feast or famine like blitz although a bit more feasty so....

Pika3105 votes

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And yea sona does need a rework I love her auras but if that's what's keeping her back from being cool (not saying she's weak or strong) I'd rather her have a rework.

Sona's auras were never holding her back and as a matter-of-fact, she doesn't even use auras anymore. They were removed during the 4.13 gutting. The only thing still keeping her unplayable is Rito's hatred of her, the only way she'll ever be anything other than unviable trash is if Colt Hallam or Steve Feak finally take notice of "balance's" blatant discrimination against her. I'm honestly baffled as to why neither of them has yet to take action in these past almost 17 months of torment she's suffered.

EcchiOtakuTM1 votes

They are holding her back

AURA: Sona's basic abilities each generate a unique aura for 3 seconds that empowers her and all allied champions who enter its radius, also incurring a 0.5-second period during which she cannot cast her other basic abilities. Each aura's duration is extended by 0.5 seconds for each allied champion it empowers, up to a maximum of 5 seconds.

She still has them, as I said they should just rework her and remove her her auras for something else cause while she is good, she is just bland only really relying on Q+passive proc to harass, healing, then ulti.

They are holding her back from being fun because they even exist on her riot will only continue to nerf her the moment she arises, they should just be removed and they add something else.

On a side note sona IS viable, one of the most viable supports there are, she's just boring.

Pika3104 votes

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They are holding her back

AURA: Sona's basic abilities each generate a unique aura for 3 seconds that empowers her and all allied champions who enter its radius, also incurring a 0.5-second period during which she cannot cast her other basic abilities. Each aura's duration is extended by 0.5 seconds for each allied champion it empowers, up to a maximum of 5 seconds.

JUST BECAUSE RITO CALLS THEM AURAS DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE AURAS!!!

Let me remind you that they also call Mordekaiser a "marksman." In no form of logic is Mordekaiser a "marksman" by ANY means or definition of the word. Can I log onto Runescape, equip a mace and then train my Ranged skill by bashing people with it? HELL NO!

Use some common sense. An aura is A PERMANENT buff, it CANNOT have a cooldown. It is NOT a single-use active like what Sona currently "uses."

Now having dispelled that falsity for the nth time, lemme restate this fact:

Sona is the weakest character in the game and completely unplayable.

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/ubtAnNuz-urgh-sonas-base-movespeed-reverted-back-to-325?comment=00040002000000000000000000000000

EcchiOtakuTM2 votes

She gives nearby allies on-hit damage, shielding, and movement speed. They ARE auras. Mordekaiser was never a marksmen just a bruiser who could go bot but they removed adc as a term and just fillered it btw.

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Aura

If you really can't understand it's an aura is.

And never say sona is weakest and unplayable she is undoubtedly one of the strongest supports atm. She doesn't need a rework because she's weak/unplayable but because she's too jack of all trades and boring due to it.

And what's holding her back from being exciting is her auras if riot just focused more on the auras or completely removed them she could be exciting again in a rework. Because as league has always shown Auras are usually useless or nerfed because they're too OP as it has been shown in the past. Hence why I would just like sona to lose her auras and get a rework done.

Pika3104 votes

Definition Auras have four basic characteristics:

They are AoE spells, based on the position of the caster, otherwise known as point blank area of effect (PBAoE) spells.
They are instant cast, _**and have no cooldown.**_
They have _**an infinite duration,**_ as long as the affected target is within range of the caster, and the caster is alive.
They are not dispellable.

I know perfectly well the definition of what an aura is, as I've tried telling sheeple countless times. I know perfectly well the definition of a Marksman, unlike you. I know perfectly well the unplayability of Sona, which has been confirmed by top Sona players worldwide.

If you want to continue living in your fantasy world and refuse to believe experts, proffessionals and common sense, then so be it. I've tried helping you, but it's impossible to help somebody that doesn't want it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/pika310/Sona%20Buvelle%20RIP%209_zpsidtxezen.jpg

EcchiOtakuTM3 votes

If she's unplayable she wouldn't be one of the strongest supports in game. And I'm not arguing whether or not she has auras i'm saying that because they want to keep in their gutted form of auras on her it's holding her back from being fun anymore. Stop being so dramatic, she's strong not fun to play and needs a rework don't argue the truth.

Oh and FYI if you fail to understand sona is just another form of taric's ulti as long as his ulti is in use it's an inf duration aura until his ulti is over. Since you fail to understand auras apparently but that's not the point anyhow.

Pika3103 votes

We get it already, you hate Sona and want her to stay unplayable. You've made that clear more than once before, there's no point in continuing to create disinformation.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/pika310/SonaBuvelleRIP4_zpse99e0455.jpg

EcchiOtakuTM1 votes

No I hate sona and want her to be more fun to use. Don't understand where in my post I said keep her unplayable. You just confuse me saying she isn't weak for she should stay the way she is. I'm saying she's not weak but not in a good spot in terms of fun and design. Stop putting words in my mouth please.

Pika3102 votes

I haven't put a single word in your mouth, I've only translated what you've already spat out.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/pika310/SonaBuvelleRIP2_zps73bd6199.jpg

Ralanr4 votes

Illaoi isn't overpowered. She's really telegraphed so she's easy to dodge.
Irelia is boring as hell to play and is frustrating to play against. She needs a rework, not a nerf. Fiora Is frustrating, but not really broken. However, as a tank main she makes me cry. Nami Her laugh/dance/certain emote that as her spamming, "yeah" is starting to reach Lux laugh levels of annoying. Lulu top is fucking evil and I hope you burn in hell for playing her top. (Actually ranged AA's in top are just a nightmare to fight against)

I think ranked fails at its job at showcasing individual ability since it is a team based game (Course I might just not know what the purpose of ranked is).

EcchiOtakuTM1 votes

Irelia is pretty fun O_o you get a diverse item pool and gets major sheen procs of.

Ralanr1 votes

She's all point and click when I feel she should be more blade manipulation.

Personally opinion though.

EcchiOtakuTM1 votes

well yea a lot of people are saying shen's rework coulda been for irelia. I do see your point in that I just felt she looked fun since your item diversity was immense especially since in teamfights you aren't easy to cc and can use practically anything due to tenacity,hybrid scalings, true damage, gap closer, conditional long ass stun (which should scale per rank into the current duration imo), and all around mobility.

Her ulti is pretty cool too.

And no i'm not trying to really say you're wrong I do see what you mean.

Ralanr1 votes

Honestly the ult feels really misplaced on her.

But since you respected my opinion, I shall respect yours.

Athenes Lulu1 votes

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Lulu top is fucking evil and I hope you burn in hell for playing her top.

+1'd your post for this line

Pika3104 votes

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Post your unpopular ideas here.

Sona I wish she wasn't nerfed when she got her Model upgrade

I agree with this, but personally I consider the model changes a downgrade and I'm not the only one who believes so. Literally EVERY skin, including Classic looks severely worse than before, with MAYBE Muse being the sole exception. MAYBE.

So as a matter-of-fact, she got nerfed in EVERY change made. Her kit got gutted. Her models got nerfed. Even her VE's failed to accomplish the only singular goal they emphasized they were setting out to do: namely improve clarity. The entire project was a failure by every department that worked on her and Fearless is solely to blame for all of it.

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/skin-champion-concepts/0KPJ9lh9-am-i-the-only-one-who-bothered-by-this

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/skin-champion-concepts/BENxLU8p-fix-sonas-robe-design

Z Statistic1 votes

And yet she still has a really good winrate, lots of versatility, and the instant aoe stun.

You're perfectly in your right to dislike Sona's aesthetics, but considering that she is objectively still a good support, you're basing "failure" on something that is extremely subjective. That's a bit hyperbolic.

Pika3104 votes

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And yet she still has a really good winrate, lots of versatility, and the instant aoe stun.

You're perfectly in your right to dislike Sona's aesthetics, but considering that she is objectively still a good support, you're basing "failure" on something that is extremely subjective. That's a bit hyperbolic.

Based on your logic, the next words I expect you to say are "Thresh is the weakest support in the game" or perhaps "Lee Sin is underpowered and in need of buffs." This too is a product of winrate propaganda. There are numerous factors that all directly contribute to overall winrates and all of these factors inherently prove her to be the unplayable, the factual weakest support in the game, but only people that aren't intentionally blinding themselves to real facts can actually see them. Despite having been presented to sheeple like you on silver platters more than just a few times...

Sona is the weakest character in the game, this is a fact.

disregardable1 votes

Kalista Really needs a buff Nidalee Really needs to get out of my games. It's not the poke that's infuriating, it's the kite. DrMundo is perfectly balanced. Stop banning him. item 3053 is better than another crit item on ADCs.

ValyrianBlade1 votes

I don't get the comment on Sterak's Gage.

I see pros build it. I seem high tier streamers build it. I see its stats and think it's garbage for an ADC.

Frozen Mallet is literally better in every way, and not many ADCs prioritized that. So why is this so popular now?

Maple Crusader3 votes

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I don't get the comment on Sterak's Gage.

I see pros build it. I seem high tier streamers build it. I see its stats and think it's garbage for an ADC.

Frozen Mallet is literally better in every way, and not many ADCs prioritized that. So why is this so popular now?

I think people build this on ADC to avoid getting burst down.

disregardable1 votes

Anti burst. That giant shield is WAY more valuable than a slow.

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2065415255/1?tab=overview You see that LeBlanc with 25 kills? You see how I'm 2/3/2? Yeah, one of those kills was 1v1ing her right before the game was over. She couldn't instantly burst me. Meanwhile she'd been 1 shotting Caitlyn since like 10 minutes ago.

ValyrianBlade1 votes

Sure in that specific instance it might be better than frozen mallet, but I'd argue a Banshee's Veil would be even better in that case...

Your "Giant" shield isn't exactly giant - it's 30% of max HP. It also gives 500 base health. So let's say the ADC has 2000HP, 30% is 600hp. For a total of 1100HP from Sterak's.

Frozen Mallet gives a base 650HP (was 700HP before 5.22, and I'll compare it to that since it wasn't build at the time). So you're lower by 400HP in total, but your base is 200HP higher. Which means all of your lifesteal from Bloodthirster is keeping you at higher HP, it just feels more effective. Then you add in that it has more AD and a slowing passive to help with kiting - it seems much better in most circumstances. In any circumstance where you need the anti-burst from Sterak's (i.e. you can't kite because you're getting 100-0'd) you should be taking a defensive item like Banshee's / Randuins / Guardian Angel instead of a hybrid item like Sterak's.

Just my thought process - I could easily be wrong, I just don't see it ever being the best item choice.

disregardable1 votes

A banshee's doesn't do anything meaningful against Rengar, Lee Sin, Yi , Jax, any ADC, sometimes even Akali, etc.

Banshee's is beter in specific case, and in this meta, it's more likely the assassin 1 shotting you is going to be AD to be honest. Randuins and GA just aren't going to stop you from getting one shot. GA will bring you back afterwards, but the timer is so long that his abilities will be up again and the item will be useless for 5 minutes. Sterak's is the most generally effective with the least compromise.

I think the problem with Mallet is that there's never a point where it's worth bringing. Either you need a defensive item or you don't. Mallet is this weird in between that no ADC needs. It's not enough health to keep you alive. It's not enough damage to be put in an item slot. Movespeed would be more valuable than a single target slow. It's a pretty useless item on everyone that's not Gnar, and even Gnar doesn't build it because there are better items for him.

Best Valor NA2 votes

but like, mundo is REALLY strong. theres obviously a reason the pros ban him :b

Akali is SO HOT3 votes

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Kalista Really needs a buff DrMundo is perfectly balanced. Stop banning him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVMib1T4T4

Best Valor NA1 votes

TahmKench you should be able to jump out of his mouth whenever you want. its annoying af. Fiddlesticks his silence should be gone/nurfed like lb, talon.. Quinn she may be a lot better and viable now, but i still like old Quinn&Valor Fizz is more fun when build with trinity/tank Khazix his ult should be able to be casted faster again... the delay fks be so bad. Caitlyn her traps should be able to be proced by minions like nidalees.

shyv1 votes

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TahmKench you should be able to jump out of his mouth whenever you want. its annoying af.

can you not?

i thought if you clicked enough in the direction you wanted to go, you got priority over where he wanted you to go.

Best Valor NA1 votes

Nope, however you will be spat out where ever your mouse is pointed after the duration of the ability, or if Tahm spits you out.

Big Lincoln1 votes

Sejuani doesn't need a fucking buff

Bard needs to stop getting random buffs, it's getting frustrating given how Riot handles champions they overbuff

Ahri Lux Malzahar Gnar MonkeyKing Twitch TwistedFate i hate all of these champions

A majority of ADCs are just as cancerous as assassins as far as their stupid kits go

Best Valor NA1 votes

Lux Is literally the easiest midlane champion in the game, and anyone who thinks their actually good for playing her is probably bronze or silver.

shyv1 votes

you're silver though

Best Valor NA1 votes

I never said i was good or anything.. and I was just saying Lux is easy af. Your point? XD

Doctor Jarvis1 votes

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item 3341 It is barely usable.

Fixed. Seriously when I play support I don't even bother switching. If they want vision denied, they can do it. I'll be lighting up the map with near infinite wards, using my SS only when trinket is down, since trinket cd is too long for the laners to use them in a meaningful way.

D3m37r11 votes

Nocturne needs to be reworked because i dont feel like the league version of freddy krueger should be a fighter/tank. And i mean he IS listed as an assassin Kassadin was overnerfed

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