How to do I counter riven?

DeejayF·Jan 17, 2019·5 votes·4,035 views

How do I deal with an enemy riven that appears to have seen to many montages and turned into faker when I don't even play top lane? Am I literally at the mercy of my top laner not to feed riven? Lvl 2 power spike. Lvl 6 power spike. first item she spikes yet again. Second item you guessed it and it ain't stopping where is the punish window when she can literally shield her self in 2 second intervals or so. Just HOW? Before you tell me oh hard cc guees what I am in silver nobody picks a proper team comp people only play what they want. So I need actual god dam advice because I cannot stand losing every game to a riven and then she just spams her mastery symbol to flex. Why does she even have a lvl 2 power spike she isn't a lane bully anymore she is considered a late game champ so why does Riot not nerf her early into the ground so you can punish her

16 Comments

MordepoolJan 17, 20196 votes

Dodge her aoe stun

Jokes aside fuck this champion.

Snarf of thunderJan 17, 20195 votes

you just have to dodge her stuns and survive long enough for her to run out of energy. Oh wait thats infinite, never mind your screwed.

DoktorKaiserJan 17, 20192 votes

Ban her. She is one of those "if you play perfectly you can't possibly lose" champions. Just ban and save yourself the agony.

DeejayFJan 17, 20191 votes

but then Irelia is open. And she will open my gates just like udyr xd. See with over 150 champs in this game the ban 10 system is really outdated. You should be able to ban 2 champs yourself meaning ban 20 sounds more reasonable

A i Bot 0Jan 17, 20191 votes

If you are saying that a scenario where you are playing top lane then I would advise a few things. 1 major way to beat anyone in top lane is to control the wave by last hitting much better. Also depending who I am playing I like to move the wave toward the right side of the lane. You can do that by making a small trade. Small tip on trade to manipulate the wave is to bait Riven's or any top laners ability by faking your last hit by walking up to a minion early enough to back away if you can make her blow an ability.

Once she blows an ability you at least have 1 more ability you can use on her then she has now.( Usually Most Riven's Will freak out in a sense and use all their abilities if you keep faking in....Now you have more abilities to use vs her

Lvl 2 can be a good power spike to gain control of the minion wave, but lvl 4 is also much better so if you lose lvl 2 advantage. Don't get greedy and let the wave push because early game XP is better then that little amount of gold. Even though 1st back is great way to get an advantage))

I have a few other things I could add but I don't want to make reading uninteresting

DeejayFJan 17, 20192 votes

didn't I mention that I DON'T play top so I don't have DIRECT influence over the matchup. and in the late game. WHAT CD??? Her shield is on a 2 second CD making it kind of hard to even scratch her. And still doesn't explain why she has a power spike on like almost everything especially early game at lvl 2 where she can the lvl 2 of TALON fcking TALON how just how and why is this decision made by Riot Games. And maybe you would be saying something along the lines of "she was intended to be a lane bully when she was released". I know but that's not how she works anymore her early shut be gutted so hard because it's not fair imo why she gets have so much early burst and pressure while Azir almost got his waveclear gutted and just gets spitted on by Riot. It makes me sick. As you probably noticed I am extremely tilted by this. But I want to understand where the fairness in that should be.

A i Bot 0Jan 17, 20191 votes

I can understand you're frustrated, but I can't really follow what your comment much in the middle where you mention talon. If you aren't going to play top lane and if you are having top laners not understanding how to play the match up, then you have to influence the other side of the map since Riven's will usually roam after getting some kills. You didn't really say what lane you played either, but to me Riven isn't that great. There are people who have mastered her mechanics and have her timing down. Especially if the riven is maxing her shield.

All I'm saying is if you chase Riven she will outplay you. That's why top laners are supposed to farm and buy good first items. If Riven's that much of a pain, wait till you see the good Camilles, Fiora's, Irelia's constantly stomping.

If you are afraid of the top laner's potential. You need to get bot lanes towers pushed so you can pressure mid or better lane swap with top lane for objectives

DeejayFJan 17, 20191 votes

I was mentioning Talon and comparing him to her because she has such a good level 2 even though she is supposed to be a late game champ. Just like talon she can all in you at level 2 which I think is completey counter intuitive to what she is supposed to be because Talon falls of hard Riven does not she only gets stronger which is ridiculous.

But hey at least my baby Azir gets nerfed into the ground and shot into the knee. That's so balanced. I hate Riot Games so much for it. I already know how much of a pain Irelia is that's why i always ban her, well almost always.

You get one shot by her or anything else because there's just too much damage flying around so playing adc is no fun at all. Which is why I swapped to mid, but I'm still pissed. Or how they give tanks more damage because that# what they DEFENETLY NEED lmao

A i Bot 0Jan 18, 20191 votes

You're not wrong, but I do like the fact that you don't see the same champ every single game like before. It was getting so stale when all you would see were the top win rate champs. I'm actually going back to adc. I think it's one of the most pivotal roles now because bot lanes can impact the game much higher then a solo lane if played right. Because now you have 2 people mia instead of just one!

DeejayFJan 18, 20191 votes

I would love to believe that adc is actually good rn but in reality you just get sneezed on by the enemy support or a tank or any other champ really

AlienPrimateJan 17, 20191 votes

There is a problem with nerfing her. She already severely struggles against anyone who is tanky with either AoE CC or point and click cc. The biggest example I can think of is Cho. If she is against Cho or someone similar she will have a miserable time in lane and this would be heightened if she was nerfed.

As for countering her, you just have to walk away whenever she uses the first cast of Q on minions. As soon as she uses the other 2 casts you have a window to get a good trade off on her if you are able to engage during that time. She has one of the lowest health regeneration stats in the game so even going even in a trade would be a won trade in the long run.

DeejayFJan 17, 20191 votes

But it's okay that Riot is nerfing adc to the point where it was unfun to play and even now it's a pain because there is so much damage or the fact that they spit on Azir my favorite champ in the game almost removing his waveclear as a CONTROL MAGE because he is too broken in pro play. I care so little to the 0.01 percent that play the game at such a high level because it's boring to watch and at least it would be enjoyable for me to see Azir absolutely destroying everything then I'd actually sit through the torture of watch LCS. I don't play top so I can't control that and since her CD in late game are extremely low that is just way to hard to punish. Sorry for going on such a big rant but I don't think it's fair at all

ØrnnToGetTrolleÐJan 17, 20191 votes

You pick Renekton and press W.

Or make your jungler camp her. After 2 deaths she's done.

RysophageJan 18, 20191 votes

Play literally any auto attacker.

Jax, Trynd, Olaf. Champions that can just stand there and beat the shit out of her while she combos you.

DeejayFJan 18, 20191 votes

I am not playing top and if she still kills me? since it's not guaranteed that I win since I just had a game where my top played olaf and riven stomped him into next century