Just wanted a bit of advice for Akali vs Veigar matchup.
Even though I should be able to counter Veigar and matchup analyzes show that technically Akali sh*ts on Veigar in the laning phase I always seem to mess it up and lose lane since his cage and aoe ability makes my shroud seem kind of useless at times. And when I get too low his ult makes it really tough to survive :/
LiberalWithFacts2 votesbest advice against vieg in general if you have to get up on that gnome, need to bait out his e by making it look like you will engage if successful you cant find avenues to trade while its on cd
DeejayF1 votesbest advice against vieg in general if you have to get up on that gnome, need to bait out his e by making it look like you will engage if successful you cant find avenues to trade while its on cd
can't? I thought I can look for trades when it's on cd
LiberalWithFacts1 votesyea sorry either auto correct or typo you CAN look for avenues when his e is on CD
Syrile1 votesVeigar's cage has a slight warm-up time. So when it starts to come up, you can escape with Akali's dashes, sometimes even hit him with the ranged attack and wait it out before re-engaging. After you bait out the E, you can live on his face so long as you dodge the death from above and keep your health up so his ulti will not crush your face. :D
Also, Veigar /has/ to stack. So if you can position yourself correctly, you can sometimes get in free poke when he uses his Q to pick up minions for stacks. It is minor, but it can add up. This can also sometimes lead to him trying to use the cage to trap you, which can let you all in him pretty well or at least dive on him in response. If you can do that, it can be easy to get a flash out, or at least some good damage. The W is pretty easy to avoid once you get used to it.
DeejayF1 votesVeigar's cage has a slight warm-up time. So when it starts to come up, you can escape with Akali's dashes, sometimes even hit him with the ranged attack and wait it out before re-engaging. After you bait out the E, you can live on his face so long as you dodge the death from above and keep your health up so his ulti will not crush your face. :D
Also, Veigar /has/ to stack. So if you can position yourself correctly, you can sometimes get in free poke when he uses his Q to pick up minions for stacks. It is minor, but it can add up. This can also sometimes lead to him trying to use the cage to trap you, which can let you all in him pretty well or at least dive on him in response. If you can do that, it can be easy to get a flash out, or at least some good damage. The W is pretty easy to avoid once you get used to it.
Okay sounds reasonable it's just hard for me to dodge out of the cage because for me it's so sudden. I have no idea how to describe it it's jusat tough okay :c
Syrile1 votesOkay sounds reasonable it's just hard for me to dodge out of the cage because for me it's so sudden. I have no idea how to describe it it's jusat tough okay :c
Oh, no, I get it. Veigar used to give me tons of problems when I first started. And I played him a lot for a short while. Try him out some, get used to when the timings go off. I think the E takes 0.5 seconds to arm. That is not a lot of time but it is possible to use a dash out of it or if you are predicting it, you can get out. Otherwise, just avoid the walls and dodge the W when they drop it. Not a lot of Veigar's are good enough to actually land the E right on you but if they are, just stay away from minions that will cause you to get caught.
Most of it is just practice. I like Veigar but he is particularly easy to punish early game.
DeejayF1 votesgot it thanks!