Can you make J4 R take 5 seconds before it's escapable if it hits one person?

Sèx Craved Eve·Jan 10, 2017·7 votes·1,051 views

Oh wait that would be broken

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Big LincolnJan 10, 20174 votes

remove the damage then

Sèx Craved EveJan 10, 20171 votes

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remove the damage then

You can't do that because his actual dueling is fucking garbage. And now that his EQ is interruptable, he's fucking garbage.

Big LincolnJan 10, 20171 votes

if you want 5 seconds of inescapability then you don't get to have the same ability be a nuke too

AckelopeJan 10, 20172 votes

why are you getting downvoted for this lmao? it's a pretty valid point. If Camille's ult did the massive amount of AoE dmg that J4's did, then we could complain. But her ult's express purpose is just to trap one person so she and her team can get to them more easily. It isn't an AoE nuke that can also potentially trap the entire enemy team if J4 uses it at the right time...

Sèx Craved EveJan 10, 20171 votes

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why are you getting downvoted for this lmao? it's a pretty valid point. If Camille's ult did the massive amount of AoE dmg that J4's did, then we could complain. But her ult's express purpose is just to trap one person so she and her team can get to them more easily. It isn't an AoE nuke that can also potentially trap the entire enemy team if J4 uses it at the right time...

You do see that I said if it hits ONE person, right? Yes, I know that it would be extremely broken for j4 since his does upfront damage. Technically, it does less damage than Camille's if she's autos for the full duration of hers but that's still over time. It just fucking sucks that they took so much away from him just so it could be an aoe nuke even though he has to build Tanky in this meta to be relevant mid-late.

SalronJan 10, 20172 votes

J4's ult is more useful as an AoE nuke than a trap zone nowadays anyways

XinCrinJan 10, 20171 votes

Veigar E is what JarvanIV R wants to be when it grows up.

Shifue DravenJan 10, 20171 votes

talon can pop over it to lol.

Kirius DarkJan 10, 20171 votes

J4's ult can trap an entire team and do damage to them. Camille screws this up by shoving everyone else out

Sèx Craved EveJan 10, 20171 votes

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J4's ult can trap an entire team and do damage to them. Camille screws this up by shoving everyone else out

Not to mention J4's R does no damage to someone once they pick up an armor item. Camille has the luxury of percentage health Magic Damage!! (fucking barf) Which makes her even harder to build against considering she already has a massive true damage attack. Only massive after sheen, tho. So, it's balanced ;)

Ferus and FerrumJan 10, 20171 votes

It's 10 flat dmg plus 6 percent current health at first rank. No one is building to stop her magic dmg, because it's not that big of a deal. Buy null magic mantle if it's such an issue.