Ranked Howling Abyss not quite ARAM

Wolf and Gun·6/22/2018, 8:07:38 AM·2 votes·1,390 views

Look, I love ARAM. It's because the game forces everyone into a single lane, and the team fights can feel a little chessboard-y.

Sometimes with ARAM. You get stomped or just stomp over the enemy team. There is an appeal to it.

However, I think that Howling Abyss deserves ranked. It's still 5v5.

You could give Howling Abyss a draft pick mode. Everyone ban's five champions. Then from there go down the line of drafting your champion.

I also think Howling Abyss matches are more appealing to watch overall. You do have duels, and 1v5's, and great skill combo's or dodges.

It's kinda like watching a football game, with the ultimate touchdown destroying the Nexus.

I think part of what makes LoL toxic is that everyone focuses on their K/D/A a little to much. If we did view it as a team effort, all that would really matter is getting the nexus down. And with ARAM each death is just a tackle or fumble in which each player will get right back up again and can do better, because you have to die to buy. I honestly think that's one of the best things about ARAM.

You can only buy if you die. Let's think about that for a second.

That means the zed who just killed you, won't be as strong this time around since he doesn't have new items until he dies. It's almost like tag. A trade-off.

It would be an interesting design choice if something like that went to SR. Because, I think the community would completely change if you could only buy once dead and returning to the fountain did nothing. I know it sounds like a silly idea. But it would make each death become a back and forth instead of our current crazy snowball meta that kinda out strains most players via stress as the stakes are so high. I think you can still have a competitive game, but LoL should probably slow its pace.

But games are too long or; I won my lane but everyone else lost theirs and we lost. - With Howling Abyss, you only have one lane. It's the team's lane and the enemy lane. It's closer to a football field and watching a football game. Summoners Rift is trying to watch three foot ball games all at the same time and it has all these distractions along the way. Jungle camps and plants, dragons, scuttles, barons. Yeah it has that fantasy element to it. But what most people want to see are the team fights. They want to see the duels, the fights at baron or dragon.

With Howling Abyss, that's what you're doing already. Just trotting down mid with your team as it corrals you. You must fight the enemy. Here are your tools, go to battle.

But if it was 5v5 wouldn't people just pick the most OP Poke and go to battle with those teams?

Again you get bans, so you could ban Ziggs or Lux or etc. (Also I think bans should be seen by both teams, banning the same champion on both sides feels a little 'meh', whenever that happens.)

And drafting you could do in two styles:

Style 1: Any champion. This would make some really odd ball teams. Maybe all tanks, cc, or whatever the idea is.

Style 2:Your team is designated roles. And you can only play that role. So each team only gets 1 Tank, 1 Assassin, 1 Mage, 1 Support, 1 ADC. - This would make the mode a bit more balanced, and also perhaps interesting to watch. As balanced teams will give you better fights compared to unbalanced steamroll snowball-fests.

Anyways, Howling Abyss could completely have a ranked mode. It doesn't just have to be ARAM. I also think these games would be more enjoyable then SR ones. Because if you lost lane, you lost it together. With your team. The same as when your on the winning side - you did it with your team.

6 Comments

Bhagswag6/22/2018, 1:23:19 PM1 votes

Why would rank matter, when ARAM is decided in champ select?

Have you seen Ziggs winrate in ARAM? Lol. Ranked is supposed to be about what you can do as a player, not "I got Xerath this game GG diamond here I come."

Bijeesny6/23/2018, 3:04:18 PM1 votes

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Look, I love ARAM. It's because the game forces everyone into a single lane, and the team fights can feel a little chessboard-y.

Sometimes with ARAM. You get stomped or just stomp over the enemy team. There is an appeal to it.

Yea, I mean, look at all these posts who are happy with one-sided games... oh wait...

However, I think that Howling Abyss deserves ranked. It's still 5v5.

You could give Howling Abyss a draft pick mode. Everyone ban's five champions. Then from there go down the line of drafting your champion.

Except there will always be one moron who will ban Udyr or something like that because he thinks he's OP, while hes actually garbage in ARAM

I also think Howling Abyss matches are more appealing to watch overall. You do have duels, and 1v5's, and great skill combo's or dodges.

Every1 ganging up on one poor guy who got snared by morgana or lux is called 'great skill combo'?

It's kinda like watching a football game, with the ultimate touchdown destroying the Nexus.

Except football has a field which is big enough for 22 people to run around in every direction, while in ARAm you have 10 players cramped up on one tiny lane where you can only go back and forth

I think part of what makes LoL toxic is that everyone focuses on their K/D/A a little to much. If we did view it as a team effort, all that would really matter is getting the nexus down. And with ARAM each death is just a tackle or fumble in which each player will get right back up again and can do better, because you have to die to buy. I honestly think that's one of the best things about ARAM.

You know what's the best thing about ARAM? getting shit on by entire poke combo who won't kill you, but will keep you below 20% of your HP and there is nothing you can do about it :D

You can only buy if you die. Let's think about that for a second.

That means the zed who just killed you, won't be as strong this time around since he doesn't have new items until he dies. It's almost like tag. A trade-off.

But Zed gets free AD off every champ he kills

It would be an interesting design choice if something like that went to SR. Because, I think the community would completely change if you could only buy once dead and returning to the fountain did nothing. I know it sounds like a silly idea. But it would make each death become a back and forth instead of our current crazy snowball meta that kinda out strains most players via stress as the stakes are so high. I think you can still have a competitive game, but LoL should probably slow its pace.

OMEGALUL

But games are too long or; I won my lane but everyone else lost theirs and we lost. - With Howling Abyss, you only have one lane. It's the team's lane and the enemy lane. It's closer to a football field and watching a football game. Summoners Rift is trying to watch three foot ball games all at the same time and it has all these distractions along the way. Jungle camps and plants, dragons, scuttles, barons. Yeah it has that fantasy element to it. But what most people want to see are the team fights. They want to see the duels, the fights at baron or dragon.

Which Riot tried to do by increasing the overall damage,guess if people are happy about it?

With Howling Abyss, that's what you're doing already. Just trotting down mid with your team as it corrals you. You must fight the enemy. Here are your tools, go to battle.

Yea, here, you get Udyr, Shen, Volibear and pantheon against Lux, Velkoz, Brand, Zyra.

But if it was 5v5 wouldn't people just pick the most OP Poke and go to battle with those teams?

Again you get bans, so you could ban Ziggs or Lux or etc. (Also I think bans should be seen by both teams, banning the same champion on both sides feels a little 'meh', whenever that happens.)

Good luck banning all mages and adc-s from that hhahahah

And drafting you could do in two styles:

Style 1: Any champion. This would make some really odd ball teams. Maybe all tanks, cc, or whatever the idea is.

Or just take poke comp, which is autowin on ARAM

Style 2:Your team is designated roles. And you can only play that role. So each team only gets 1 Tank, 1 Assassin, 1 Mage, 1 Support, 1 ADC. - This would make the mode a bit more balanced, and also perhaps interesting to watch. As balanced teams will give you better fights compared to unbalanced steamroll snowball-fests.

Then it all depends which team's mage is better at poking

Anyways, Howling Abyss could completely have a ranked mode. It doesn't just have to be ARAM. I also think these games would be more enjoyable then SR ones. Because if you lost lane, you lost it together. With your team. The same as when your on the winning side - you did it with your team.

And yet you would see people blaming some1 for not picking overpowered shit in ARAM xD