Does Diana still ez counter Zed? Who then?

AMADEUSdotEXE··1 votes·1,210 views

She used to ROFL stomp him around s5. It was a pretty one sided lane back then is it still the same? Or realistically just someone i can play into him and play safe without too much killpressure from him. I'm moving my ban to another champion that i find annoying so i figured i'd try and relearn his counterpicks. I know how to fight him I just suck at it even after 5 years. I do try to play champions i really enjoy so I don't usually think too hard about how hard of a counter /a is to /b.

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Red Mage FTS2 votes

I like to go garen, kench or mord into him, full tank and watch him cry

Original Sin1 votes

Neeko counters all assassins. Ahri does, malz, anivia. Pretty much just need to learn how to itemise and how to trade against him before level 3 and 6. Take stopwatch rune if you want and obviously build seekers.

AMADEUSdotEXE1 votes

Please elaborate on this, or is there a video on it? I love Neeko but i actually thought she was horrible against them. Might just need to practice. Also thank you

fire2631 votes

Vladimir Lissandra Anivia Sylas Malzahar Irelia + essentially any off role bruiser or tank such as malphite, garen, mord, rumble. All of those will counter zed pretty hard, and even more if you get early armor/stopwatch.

ChaosReyn1 votes

Lissandra was and is my go to for "sit in one place and die" to all mobile champions.

For Zed in particular, probably the funniest counter I've found to him (other than Nami mid, which I wont recommend) is probably Kennen. Sure buddy: ult into a guy who just runs you over with his E and ults you and both your shadows to oblivion. :P

Tormentula1 votes

Either go bruisers/tanks that can output the same damage as assassins while being harder to kill in the early phase, or just stall to late game when you can shove the lane harder. An assassin who never gets fed is an assassin not accomplishing their goal of snowballing. Anything that can survive, zone, or flat out snowball them counters. Mid-late game all their impact comes from players mispositioning and getting picked off either splitting, facechecking, or after all your peelers used cooldowns on other targets in a teamfight.

For zed in particular,

Fizz is really difficult for zed since the moment zed throws out his shadow you can just E to dodge all his damage then all-in him or run away. You also can go untargetable with E to completely prevent zed's ultimate from marking you.

Lissandra's ultimate is like a 2nd hourglass in the matchup, additionally if zed dives into your team to try and make a pick you CC lock him with point and click R / W root.

Talon is way stronger than zed early on and can snowball off him, and if zed ults talon can counter it with his ult by going invis to deny the passive auto, and potentially dodge his Qs.

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Mages and marksmen struggle vs. zed, so avoid picking them into the matchup if you can. They can rush hourglass but typically zed can cover his weakness of being zoned off farm by attacking your mana pool (making you poke him until you run oom and can't trade back) and last hitting with Q, as well as going all-in before you have items or tools to keep you alive. Another factor is the jungler, if you're an immobile mage against a zed the enemy jungler is going to pin you to the ground to get both of them ahead for easy picks and snowball.

nm10101 votes

Lissandra is good, Fizz is more a skill match up, Talon is a losing lane since rework (but ok against Zed out of lane). Barrier is better in lane against Zed, exhaust is better out of lane. Obviously seekers and zhonyas are both great choices.

I would personally recommend Annie Lissandra for braindead counters against Zed or for more skill investment required Vladimir Yasuo.

ı Sona ı1 votes

Its not that she doesn't counter him now, its perhaps that you are having to face more skilled players and will have to further up your game. He has the ability to dash around the field, you have the ability to dash around the field and give yourself a refreshing shield, plus you will likely make use of stopwatch and zhonya.

You just have to fight him at the correct moment as with most things.

[sona-playing]

DuskDaUmbreon1 votes

Diana should still stomp him - nothing's changed to make that not happen.

Morgana really fucks him if you get RoA, since you deny him any lane phase he can ever have, which means Zed never gets to exist.

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