How to buff Zed, the most underpowered and hard to play champion in the game

Anonagon··100 votes·8,819 views

As we all know, Zed is a champion that not only is incredibly hard to play, but isn't properly rewarded for the skill he takes to play. This is incredibly disappointing as Zed is hands-down the best designed champion in the game. But perhaps he is too healthy, and this abundance of counterplay makes him ridiculously weak.

What buffs does Zed the Shadow Lad need then?

Increased Attack Speed

I know, I know. This would be a revert, and Riot historically avoids reverting nerfs unless it comes to very cool but underpowered champions, like Ryze. But Zed is just like Ryze! A cool fun champion with a history of great plays in the LCS. Zed's attack speed nerf was a true gutting and needs a total revert.

Higher Bonus AD From W

With the new tank meta, tanks have more health than ever, but Zed isn't getting more AD to keep up. As an assassin known for his ability to shred tanks, Zed should not have to deal with this. Increased bonus AD from W would go a long way to bringing Zed back to the ridiculous tank shredder we know and love.

An Overall Better Ultimate

Zed takes so much skill to use, so it comes as such a disappointment that Riot lets this theoretically fantastic ability be countered by a single item purchase. While I do not expect Riot to nerf both Zhonya's Hourglass and Quicksilver Sash just for Zed, I do not think it would be too much to have Death Mark be a special exception to these item's actives. Another thing about Zed's ultimate - it puts him at so much risk! Theres an entire split second at the end of the travel time where you just can't press R fast enough, eating a CC or some nukes. Its very annoying that so often after ulting Zed will have to spend some time lifestealing his health back to full, because a second opponent can do quite a lot of damage in Death Mark's duration while you kill your target. Therefore I suggest that Zed be untargetable for the entire duration of his ultimate.

EDIT: 7/14/15

It appears that Riot is so hateful of our sneaky friend Zed that they disabled him from the game! I understand that many bad players have trouble playing against him, but that is no reason to make up some fake bug as an excuse to disable him! This champion was already unplayable before being made literally unplayable - is this Riot's way of saying they are leaving our favorite ninja in the dust?

128 Comments

PaulRemyBacardi36 votes

Reading is Boards' strongest skill.

MadDoughnutz22 votes

#LCSBIGREAD$

SlytherinUmbreon16 votes

I was elected to lead, not to read.

mattisnotmyname2 votes

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I was elected to lead, not to read.

Logged in to upvote.

Lenn28 votes

i agree. can we give him some kind of %max health true damage too?

Anonagon23 votes

This would be a very interesting change. Would definitely play up the fact that Zed really doesn't care who his target is. If he is still weak after his much needed buffs (which, lets be honest, he will be with how much skill he takes), maxHP true damage would be the way to go from there.

Kitten of Evil17 votes

As long as the true damage is also multiplied by Death Mark.

EvilRabbitt4 votes

I agree. His W should add 5/10/15/20/25% ad ratio as true damage on autos. This would solidify his passive interaction and allow him to one shot anyone with Death Mark, which really makes it obvious that Zed doesn't care about who you are. Zed will find you...and when Zed finds you....Zed will kill you.

Kitten of Evil9 votes

It would really fit with his flavor. After all, "Balance is weakness."

Vellich0r3 votes

Now, I see one issue with this. How often do zeds really level W first? we dont want to change his first max, so why not add this to Q?

MakersF2 votes

If we had to add a passive to Q, I'd add 40-45-50-55-60% spellvamp. At least now he can survive the poke he receives in lane. It's not fun to bring ahri to 30% hp with 2 Qs, and then she wastes 80% of her mana pool with her troll passive to get back to 40% hp. That's just not fair!Zed should have built in sustain too!

Narasimha4 votes

A spell vamp isn't very thematic. I think a better option would be a passive shield on his E, where Zed gets a shield equal to 40/50/60/70/80% of the damage he deals.

Asdeft2 votes

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i agree. can we give him some kind of %max health true damage too?

Make his passive true damage.

Fauxfire16 votes

What is this even satirizing?

Anonagon99 votes

Why do you suggest that my entirely serious proposal is an attempt at satire?

Hawkefire21 votes

God the amount of sarcasm dripping from this post is wonderful.

IcyPepper15 votes

Man, energy is such a difficult resource to manage, and severely gates him.

He needs to be like Riven, no resource at all. And lower cooldowns too; so many mages keep bullying him out of lane and can rush damage while he has to build AD and MR, so he needs something to stay in the game.

Blue Iceborn15 votes

Finally, someone who understands! I also think Q should be a targetted ability, with the same range and aoe. That way when I go to assassinate someone I don't have to worry about my q not hitting.

aperson113 votes

I totally agree - for such a high skill ninja assassinchamp, Zed is way too weak. I don't really feel like an unkillable ninja assassin who ends everyone's lives in a single stroke. I mean, I have to press so many buttons, just to kill ONE person? I'd like to propose a minor QoL buff to Zed ultimate so he really has that "Ninja assassin" feel.

R: Death Mark Cooldown: 1 second Energy Cost: 0 energy Instantly kill target champion. Ignores all resurrection and invulnerability effects.

I feel this change will really help solidify Zed's identity as a ninja assassin guy who kills people really fast. Also, it really reinforces his identity as a lone wolf ninja assassin, since he can kill off his teammates to prevent any chance of stealing his penta-skill. And if nothing else, it will prevent all of Zed's high-skill playerbase from developing carpal tunnel mashing their right mouse button. Please Riot, think of the children.

ShadowShoe223 votes

I feel that the 1 second cooldown is way too much. How can he "assassinate" people of he can't pentakill the entire team in under .5 seconds?

MakersF2 votes

R Active: Cooldown: 10 seconds Energy Cost: 0 energy Instantly kill target champion. Ignores all resurrection and invulnerability effects.

Passive: Reset R CD and restore full energy on kill.

KaisadiIIa2 votes

Basic attacks reduce the cooldown of this ability by 1 second (10 seconds against enemy champions, monsters, minions, structures and Teemo).

He shouldn't be punished too much for failing to kill.

ShadowShoe222 votes

Maybe his new passive should be Death stare: Being on the opposite team of zed will automatically lose you the game

Fadedpf11 votes

Unlimited harass in lane, super safe lane, no mana cost, destroy adcs and squishies with a item 3134 . Zed is so badddddd

Anonagon84 votes

It seems I have seriously overestimated the average boards user's intellect and ability to actually read a post before taking an opinion on it

Carniverous10 votes

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It seems I have seriously overestimated the average boards user's intellect and ability to actually read a post before taking an opinion on it

  • Let it be known by all, those whom can not read, nor wright, should be allowed a keyboard. Void 3:46 - Malzahar
    Amen Brother.
not a starburst14 votes

You trust the average person's intellect? I'm impressed by your optimism.

DorkunedAuras8 votes

He still feels like he's missing something. I think his Qs need longer range, probably about Lux ult would be reasonable. Naturally, they'd need to move faster to function with that kind of range. They also can't have that pesky damage drop off, as that just ruins his laning. Also, if both Es connect, they should do triple damage to the opponent, and 9x damage if 3 Es hit, possibly even 27x damage if you manage to get all 3 deathmark shadows and your W to E a target together. That should get him in line, and capable of competing with those urgots.

Mapo7 votes

+1

Sooko5 votes

Ohoho, you clever rascal! Trundle

People judge threads way too easily based on their titles.

SmknWdl3 votes

His E and his W should have longer ranges; I often find myself unable to poke with W and E because the range is too short. Q should also be a targeted ability. That way we won't have to worry about missing it when we ult. Zed is severely underpowered, and needs massive buffs with extra compensation.

GuiltyGecko3 votes

Ya, Zed is really weak right now. I think his passive should actually activate on minions at 75% instead of 50% so that he can farm under tower more easily when he is pushed under. He should also have higher base regen so he can stay in lane a little longer since he is so easy to harass.

TotalJerk3 votes

The fact that so many people took this seriously says a lot about the intelligence of those crying about him all the time.

Bard in a Diaper2 votes

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YingYangYoshi6 votes

Your valuable input is greatly appreciated!

Magic Mo2 votes

I have no idea if this is a troll post or if the writer is just retarded. I like how the other people that wrote that same thing are getting downvoted by GD Sheep.

Pro tip: if you want to be funny, bring some Clarity to the post. Idiot.

Anonagon4 votes

Protip: A post doesn't have to have "hahahahahaahahh XD XD Kappa! memes!" all over it to be sarcasm. Illiterate uncultured filth.

Subject 52 votes

I agree, we should also buff Riven, Yi, Jax, Pantheon and Le-blanc because the tank meta. Oh and this post is hilarious.

Catastrop2 votes

I say he should get 2x lethality, that would really put him in line with other assassins.

Solow Swan Model1 votes

gold trying to get balanced champs buffed

Anonagon16 votes

your rank doesn't matter for what I'm about to say not being able to read

Solow Swan Model1 votes

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not reading since anything you suggest is flawed from the gate no backtalk.

Anonagon9 votes

just look at the top comment and you'll understand

Little Kuro1 votes

Is this a fucking joke?

KaisadiIIa3 votes

Is it not obvious enough?

SlampieceHawke1 votes

Why does Zed need buffs? 50% of the time you lock him in you'll get fed a few kills and be able to 1v1 people under their own towers like it's nothing. "As an assassin known for his ability to shred tanks"? Why should any champion be able to shred a tank? I may be a little bitter from my last game in which a zed who was ahead by only a few kills was able to come top lane and just slay me under my own tower while I was at full health (was a tanky darius). And all he had to do was hit is r key and slap the upper left side of his keyboard like crazy, then emerge unscathed from the whole thing. I can think of a list of champs that could use some love, but zed? You're giving me a bad case of the giggles.

SlampieceHawke5 votes

And now I realize this is purely sarcastic. Gee thanks you got me.

Leaf on Bush1 votes

Did anyone realize that this thread is

**2 years old **

????

Anonagon2 votes

Did you realize that despite it being two years, this thread is still relevant, because Riot has yet to give Zed a proper buff?

Justice has yet to be served!

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