Ashe is just a slow asshe machine gun...

Mira Arya Enthe··8 votes·495 views

Where is the ice Legolas or Robin Hood fantasy? She isn't a ranger, she is just a slow moving, slowing, stun bot damage dealer. Like, why is Ashe just a slow moving turret? It doesn't fit her at all thematically.

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TyrekGoldenspear3 votes

Becuase if we had a mobile ADC that slowed, people would throw a fit.

So no ice Legolas. :(

Mira Arya Enthe1 votes

It could be adjusted in so many different directions. It's not even just her immobility, it is her entire design being a slow ass turret that just machine guns people.

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

I mean I see your point, but the reason she was designed that way is probably becuase she is largely unchanged since her release in S1.

Hence her having a vision ability and a AA enhance ability.

You know, basic stuff. You can bet if they released her now she would fit the ranger theme better. But she still holds up rather well visually and gameplaywise, so I dont see any VGU anytime soon.

Anonagon2 votes

don't forget Caitlyn - "One shot, one kill." - or really, lots and lots and lots of shots. Literally rushes an item that triples the shots. Really trigger happy, that girl. Sniping really was never her calling. Oh, you say she has two long range damaging abilities? Wow cool, she can snipe! Except both those abilities are terrible. Stick to the machine gun tactic, Caitlyn. Does more damage. Might as well ignore your Q and R buttons past the laning phase.

Narvuntien1 votes

Because rangers are OP.

LankPants1 votes

Like, why is Ashe just a slow moving turret? It doesn't fit her at all thematically.

Because Riot tried zero damage utility ADC and it was so garbage that no one would ever play Ashe. She needed something along the lines of her Q to be viable.

Past that there is such a thing as a legacy thematic. It's OK for a champ to stay the way they are because that's the way they have been. Ashe has always been more on the DPS, AA based end of ADCs, to uproot that and change it completely would go against what players expect from Ashe.

Mira Arya Enthe1 votes

Tell that to many other drastically reworked champions.

The only reason she has her design is because at the time the game design was heavily "RPG" very linear without much in terms of programming technology either. And they just kept her that way.

LankPants1 votes

Tell that to many other drastically reworked champions.

Yes, such beloved characters as Yorick, Taric and Poppy. Do you know what the difference between Ashe and them is? Ashe wasn't abysmally designed and people actually liked Ashe.

The only reason she has her design is because at the time the game design was heavily "RPG" very linear without much in terms of programming technology either. And they just kept her that way.

Why is this a problem? You don't have to like everything in the game, if you don't like Ashe as a linear champion then just don't play her. Not every champion needs to do 15 things with every spell cast.

Hinagiku331 votes

Varus : Hi...

Also, having Ashe be some kind of running, leaping, sprinting forest ranger would be stupidly broken. You'd either have to gut all of her utility and completely change her champion identity, or gut all of her damage. Lucian jumping around is bad enough. Kalista can die in a fire.

If you want mobility skills on Ashe, you have to give up the perma-kiting slows and her global stun ult.

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