Please gut Sett

omnicron007·2/26/2020, 4:31:20 PM·1 votes·7,149 views

Sett is one of the most obnoxious, anti-fun characters present in the game at the moment. He auto wins lane Darius style but lacks the counterplay that Darius has. You will not beat Sett as a melee character, period. He would have to AFK or lag out. There are several problems with Sett but the most obvious are currently his passive HP regen and the current state of his W, which needs a rework. I propose flat out removing the shield or gutting the damage to negligible numbers.

59 Comments

Jamaree2/26/2020, 4:32:24 PM29 votes

I think you should have to play him before making those kinds of statements.

l MrD l2/26/2020, 4:40:15 PM15 votes

he is very strong in lane like darius and should definitely be respected but he does have his counters ... quite a lot tbh lol

Dorans Blaze it2/26/2020, 7:29:00 PM4 votes

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You will not beat Sett as a melee character, period. He would have to AFK or lag out.

Singed destroys this match up. Not many hard counters in this game but Singed wins this everytime.

You sound like you just got destroyed in game and are blaming it on champion kit. Maybe the player was better than you. Maybe you have zero comprehension about how the champ works.

omnicron0072/26/2020, 8:33:03 PM4 votes

So far the only argument here is "pick x and win!" when that is perhaps the dumbest argument in the history of ever. Why should I have to pick someone specific to beat him? This is league of legends not rock paper scissors

VoKks92/26/2020, 10:29:40 PM3 votes

Base armor: 37 > 33 Base HP regen: 8 > 7 HP regen per level: 0.75 > 0.5 Ultimate slow duration: 1.5s > 1s

Coming patch 10.5. not sure how much of a difference it will make.

Link to source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bseftRBPSg

Sergeant HbA1c2/26/2020, 6:18:12 PM3 votes

Didn't Riot specifically say they want to create dynamic interaction with Champions?

Where you didn't have to rely or worry about counters making or breaking a lane?

GFREEMEN2/26/2020, 8:38:58 PM3 votes

Sorry to say you just dont know how to play vs Sett.

Yes he is strong but he has counter play. You have to play the poke game and dodge his W.

LordGeovanni2/26/2020, 9:04:50 PM3 votes

Darius has counter play while sett doesnt? side step the true damage unlike darius Q which his E sets up a garenteed hit his E gives more damage by ignoring your defense and his bleed gives more damage by both stacking and giving extra ad.

Vault loves kit2/26/2020, 11:24:57 PM3 votes

sett is actually super easy to beat i have won 99% of match ups with him with Darius
teemo on the other hand i lose 99% of matched because he just zones me out and i cant do anything about it

PaffWasTaken2/26/2020, 11:28:40 PM3 votes

People here literally forgot what juggernauts are and how to play against them uh.

KrypticBeing2/27/2020, 12:16:29 AM2 votes

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Sett is one of the most obnoxious, anti-fun characters present in the game at the moment. He auto wins lane Darius style but lacks the counterplay that Darius has. You will not beat Sett as a melee character, period. He would have to AFK or lag out. There are several problems with Sett but the most obvious are currently his passive HP regen and the current state of his W, which needs a rework. I propose flat out removing the shield or gutting the damage to negligible numbers.

"Lacks the counterplay darius has." Sett wont win lane if u dodge his w. Darius meanwhile can still win lane by not hitting his q and autoing to death.

Smiling Frog2/26/2020, 7:56:38 PM2 votes

sett is the best champion ever made now I can punch ppl like alway wanted to do during my highschool feels good man.

Power Cosmic2/27/2020, 12:21:13 AM2 votes

He is fun but his future has to be that of a pure Tank with nerfs to damage. His engage is too good because it last forever with him fighting and cc'ing the other team repeatedly. Because of all the effective tank from the cc on his R and E and the big W shield he can innately survive too well to do much base damage. But he is balanceable unlike Aatrox. His gameplay identity is a diving, sticky tank, he can't kill everyone too. If he wants to do damage he should have to build it, at a real sacrifice to his survivability.

MrFawknSunshine2/26/2020, 8:44:36 PM2 votes

so its kinda of funny every one is saying pick Renekton into sett.

well sett vs reneckton

sett has nearly a 54% win rate in that match up

https://imgur.com/cRhQ75x

AshesandCinder2/26/2020, 4:55:29 PM2 votes

IMO, his W shouldn't have a base damage and scale purely with how much grit is expended when using it. If he doesn't take damage, he can't use it at all.

Crescent Dusk2/27/2020, 5:23:09 AM1 votes

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Sett is one of the most obnoxious, anti-fun characters present in the game at the moment. He auto wins lane Darius style but lacks the counterplay that Darius has. You will not beat Sett as a melee character, period. He would have to AFK or lag out. There are several problems with Sett but the most obvious are currently his passive HP regen and the current state of his W, which needs a rework. I propose flat out removing the shield or gutting the damage to negligible numbers.

Kled, Tryndamere, Renekton are all characters who can lane against him just fine. So can Darius for that matter.

Sett also is one of the worst scaling juggernauts. He falls off harder than a prom dress by lv13+, juggernauts like Garen start to massively outscale him.

You can even play something like Nasus and scale up, and Cho'gath has an easy time peeling him off while outscaling him.

Illaoi also does well into Sett post-6 if she didn't int her face off until then.

Alternatively, you can use what brain cells you have left to buy a bramble vest as you should against any champ with healing as an integral part of their kit.

Sett's main asset is bombing a tank into the enemy backline and landing a multitarget stun E while soaking damage, but he's nowhere near as good as cleaning up fights as Darius, isolating targets like Morde, or diving a backline like Renekton/Riven/Jax/Kled.

Exodus2472/27/2020, 8:02:59 PM1 votes

Did you just say darius has counterplay compared to sett? What? Darius is WAY more opressive, and setts main dmg early is his w turnaround. If you facetank his true dmg, then thats on you, but you honestly think hes more op than darius? lmao. Oh also, garen and mundo have basically the same hp regen, dont try to say sett is unique on that

ZephyrDrake2/28/2020, 1:10:16 AM1 votes

People who want any champion to be gutted should not be talking about balance in the slightest.

Hazardus ducees2/27/2020, 4:01:22 AM1 votes

Quite sadly, just kite Sett. It isn't hard for anyone to do now a days and his abilities are obvious enough to realize how they're going to be used.

I Like Teemo2/27/2020, 5:02:58 AM1 votes

sett can also have a pretty hard time with yorrick if he plays his hand right..

its all about being in the right place at the right time