Please nerf junglers.

Its All Skillzz·Mar 22, 2018·2 votes·205 views

Seriously they shouldnt come out the fuckin jungle after a full clear lvl 3 with double buffs and full health while in mid/top i just hit lvl 3. like make them take damage in jungle again make them have to back after first clear not go full clear roam bot get double kill on lvl 2 laners then roam mid an kill mid lane. like wtf i remember when you took damage in jungle an you couldnt go gank untill first back. im so sick of pretty much every game being decided by who has the fucking better jungler.

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RewtMar 22, 20181 votes

Jungle would become essentially irrelevant in that case unless given compensation buffs

As a jungler its still relatively safe to pull a gank with 1/2 HP. So for it not to be safe you would need to be under 1/2 HP. Think of the implications of being under 1/2 hp after Red, blue, and wolves.

Jungle becomes nigh impossible to clear. Riot it forced to give compensation buffs to the jungle XP and gold gains. So now they can start to hard farm and come out of the jungle level 18 when everyone else is 14. Shyvana and Yi become meta again. Hard farm till 18. 1v5.

Right now jungle is in one of its healthiest spots. The jungle diversity is fucking insane. You can play pretty much anything right now and make it work.

Also lets think about what jungle actually does. Its a stupidity punisher. If you play like a moron that jungler is gonna get ya. Most junglers gold and below dont feel comfortable forcing ganks. They just take the ones that are free. (and trust me. there are plenty) Now you do see the occasional forced gank (which almost always ends in a tower dive) But those arent as common unless they are specific diving junglers (elise, Level 6 Kayn, Level 6 Skarner, etc)

Also heres the thing. Laners decide the game. not the jungler. If the laners play smart, ward, and keep track of the jungler it can be infuriating to play against. The jungler just cant make anything work and he is forced to sit in his jungle while the enemy jungler gets to gank. Jungle is entirely dependent on stupid plays from enemy laners to get ahead.

BultzMar 22, 20181 votes

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Jungle would become essentially irrelevant in that case unless given compensation buffs

As a jungler its still relatively safe to pull a gank with 1/2 HP. So for it not to be safe you would need to be under 1/2 HP. Think of the implications of being under 1/2 hp after Red, blue, and wolves.

Jungle becomes nigh impossible to clear. Riot it forced to give compensation buffs to the jungle XP and gold gains. So now they can start to hard farm and come out of the jungle level 18 when everyone else is 14. Shyvana and Yi become meta again. Hard farm till 18. 1v5.

Right now jungle is in one of its healthiest spots. The jungle diversity is fucking insane. You can play pretty much anything right now and make it work.

Also lets think about what jungle actually does. Its a stupidity punisher. If you play like a moron that jungler is gonna get ya. Most junglers gold and below dont feel comfortable forcing ganks. They just take the ones that are free. (and trust me. there are plenty) Now you do see the occasional forced gank (which almost always ends in a tower dive) But those arent as common unless they are specific diving junglers (elise, Level 6 Kayn, Level 6 Skarner, etc)

Also heres the thing. Laners decide the game. not the jungler. If the laners play smart, ward, and keep track of the jungler it can be infuriating to play against. The jungler just cant make anything work and he is forced to sit in his jungle while the enemy jungler gets to gank. Jungle is entirely dependent on stupid plays from enemy laners to get ahead.

yeah no gut the jungler already. He is meant to jungle as a means to farm and only gank at the cost of farm, as it stands now junglers end up with the most gold and farm without much farming actually done. Gut them.

RewtMar 22, 20181 votes

I dont think you grasp what the jungle is meant to be.

Its meant to be a roaming carry.

Not a hard farmer who you dont see for 30min then comes out and 1v5s. we have had that in the past. it was awful. no one liked it. Not even the junglers who could 1v5. it was just boring and you knew whoever stacked better won the game.

If you make hard farming the name of the game again for jungle riot will also have to release a jungle item that rewards farming. And no one wants that. Feral flare and devourer were bad for the game.