If you an Ap user prepare to adjust to your new build

Its All Skillzz·Apr 18, 2018·225 votes·25,595 views

129 Comments

ltmetalApr 18, 201856 votes

item 3070 item 3158

ZackTheWaffleManApr 18, 201837 votes

item 3048 item 3693

The mana from the tears doesn't stack.

chipndip1Apr 18, 20188 votes

I thought it does since you stack them one at a time.

webstar1108Apr 18, 20185 votes

Ive seen a ryze build this with one ROA in ARAM LOL its was silly how big the shield was. I think he had 9k mana

It Hertz When IPApr 18, 201810 votes

item 3048 item 3110 item 3029 item 3025 item 3020 item 3100

Prepare your anus.

webstar1108Apr 18, 20181 votes

Lich Bane and Iceborn do not stack. So Luden's or a Magic pen item instead of Iceborn.

It Hertz When IPApr 18, 201813 votes

The passives don't stack damage, I was memeing about the mana gains.

I don't actually build Ryze like this.

Bob the ToastrApr 18, 20182 votes

They don't stack on top of each other, but they do stack in a sense. You get the bonus damage from whichever one give the most damage and you also get the slow zone from iceborn.

kargishApr 19, 20187 votes

Not entirely true. They don't add damage ontop of each other, but it's prioritised like this in terms of damage item 3025 < item 3078 < item 3100

The effects are still applied though, so you'll deal Lich Bane damage and apply Iceborn Gauntlet's slowing area.

PaladinNOApr 18, 201834 votes

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"Yes, it's true. For only 2,95 K damage a second, I will leave you breathless." ~ Janna

https://pre00.deviantart.net/e091/th/pre/i/2013/039/e/7/lol___ad_janna_digi_art_throwdown_submission_by_temenuria-d5u8ivb.jpg

TwinkieProApr 18, 20181 votes

{quoted}

"For only 2,95 K damage a second, I will leave you...breathless." ~

https://pre00.deviantart.net/e091/th/pre/i/2013/039/e/7/lol___ad_janna_digi_art_throwdown_submission_by_temenuria-d5u8ivb.jpg

how does a janna do 295,000 damage a second? holy shit that would murder baron several times over with that dps.

SnugglePuggle94Apr 18, 201817 votes

It's her little iconic joke. Press /j in chat and she will say it

PaladinNOApr 18, 20187 votes

how does a janna do 295,000 damage a second?

2,95 K. Not 295 K. EU numbers. It's a decimal. It wouldn't have the same ring to it if I wrote "2K95", or made it as obvious and boring as "2950".

I wanted to make a play on her joke.

Yes, it's true. For only $2.95 a minute, I will leave you breathless. http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Janna/Quotes

...but still keep it believable.

I have had a Wukong deal ~1900 damage to me in about 1,3 seconds, so with enough Dark Harvest stacks...

Yes, I did consider it could be misinterpreted. I just didn't think someone would actually comment on that possible misinterpretation, but instead read it for what it had to be. Because logic.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/MeanTanBeardedcollie-size_restricted.gif ( ~ lategame Veigar )

BestPudgeNAApr 18, 201822 votes

I'm ahead of the curve

https://imgur.com/ILLRzQG

Rico NastyApr 18, 201817 votes

ADC Karma time. My absolute favorite champion since I started playing this game is now going to be useless.

AlicetariaApr 18, 201815 votes

I'll just copy-paste my previous comment:

Do you remember when ADCs/Top lane had to use their mana consuming abilities to deal damage? No? Because they never needed mana or mana management to kill someone, they don't need any kind of mana to deal damage, they just right click, auto attack and kill anyone squishy like mages/supports with 2 auto attacks.

ADCs can dish out over 2k damage with a single right click, meanwhile mages need to do a whole rotation, sometimes 2 rotations to deal half the amount of damage a single ADC deals with ONE FUCKING AUTO ATTACK.

Who needs to be balanced more, really? Simple logic, not that Riot's balance team knows what balance or logic is, even if it hit them square in the fucking face.

GrReaper96Apr 18, 201812 votes

Well there was a time waaaaaaaaayyyyy back when toplane ad casters Jayce Pantheon Khazix did need mana to be functional. Of course those days have long gone

CasterGilgameshApr 18, 20186 votes

a long time ago probs season 1 2 and maybe 3 ad casters needed mana hence item 3004 item 3508 funny enough a long time ago used to have life steal but then they made it into a crit item for the life of me i dont know why they changed it i guess its because no one really bought the item since around that time AD champions started to not need mana as much

PB4UAMEApr 18, 20181 votes

They changed it around the same time they released Muramana changing manamune from an AD/mana item for top lane fighters like Yorick, Jayce, Urgot, Blitz (yes, he was designed as an AD-fighter for toplane and was played as such/off tank for the first few years of League) into an item for ADCs, so they did the same thing to ER and a few other things.

Basically, like with most things, its ADCs and blatant favoritism by RIOT that caused those otherwise completely ass-backwards and completely illogical choices that also went about harming the game's health and balance. Yay. ._.

CasterGilgameshApr 18, 20183 votes

i loved old essence weaver the change was ok i guess FOR THE ADC's but every ad caster that might have liked in back then and in the future just lost a good item LUL its why i both love and hate the ADC role (the champions themselves bring a decent contribution to the league lore)

DW DianaApr 18, 201811 votes

Either that or play lb, ahri and fizz. Ap assassins are still good. You just kill your laner, clear the wave (normally at the same time) and then back for mana.

RyzeTheSmurfMageApr 18, 201814 votes

But fizz is braindead AND the litteral definition of cancer.

SpongebobIsLifeApr 18, 20184 votes

ur mom.

AlicetariaApr 18, 201810 votes

no u

SpongebobIsLifeApr 18, 20186 votes

[zombie-nunu-tears]

RyzeTheSmurfMageApr 20, 20182 votes

{quoted}

no u

summoner 14

PopcornBunniApr 19, 20187 votes

Was hoping for a full adc build, was not disappointed.

In all honesty though

Anivia shit ap ratios, tear and archangel gutted, lost chapter gutted next, but you know what she does have? 600 range!

Zyra Annie 575 range

Meanwhile most marksmen have 550 or lower range

I think you might be onto something here. I mean wasn't the highest winrate Leblanc build before her revert a nuclear adc build + item 3146 ?

Clint OrrisApr 18, 20186 votes

" item 3087 item 3508 item 3094 item 3006 item 3072 item 3036 "

ftfy

ThefrostyvikingApr 18, 201846 votes

Critbuild with no IE,,,,,,,,not approved.

JAAAAAAAAAAAAYCEApr 18, 20184 votes

Nobody would build that, 1 its too expensive, 2 it has no ie, 3 you need protection

The Yetii RiderApr 18, 20184 votes

IE is about to get a massive rework.

AIIanApr 19, 20183 votes

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IE is about to get a massive rework.

Really ? It's about fucking time ! I remember way back in the day, when Riot deleted the dodge stat, everybody thought the crit stat would follow suit.

H O W W R O N G W E W E R E

Immovable OzenApr 19, 20182 votes

protection from what? The top lane bruiser who cant do anything in this bot lane meta :)

JAAAAAAAAAAAAYCEApr 19, 20181 votes

As a Jayce, if I saw you building no armor/health, one Accelerated shock blast would do 65% of your health mid/late game.

Snowman ArcApr 19, 20182 votes

And then, I would AA something with Fleet Footwork and BT and be back to full LUL

YuGiHoApr 18, 20184 votes

Fiddlesticks my time has come!

CasterGilgameshApr 18, 20187 votes

lol Crittle sticks?

BattalionApr 18, 20181 votes

You do not know the power of Crittle Sticks.

CasterGilgameshApr 18, 20182 votes

the old times of ad crittle sticks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqJnUzTUggQ

WDG DevourApr 18, 20181 votes

Why are ap users so envious of adcs?... don't get it.

AlicetariaApr 18, 201821 votes

Because: ADC items barely get touched. ADC items are op as fuck, with tons of damage, you can easily get over 2k damage with a single auto attack. ADCs don't need mana to deal any kind of damage, just right click any solo mage and poof, they're gone.

Sp33d Zer0Apr 18, 20185 votes

You can get 2k damage on auto... If you are a full build Caitlyn headshot critting a caster minion.

The only adcs who have pulled off that shit were vayne pre Q+R nerf with a cheesy lethality crit build on other squishes.

Go do a standard game on someone like xayah, jinx, sivir, ashe, vayne and show me that 2k crit on a champion.

Crits do a lot, but exaggeration does nothing to help the case of getting things fixed properly.

Malix FarwinApr 18, 201813 votes

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You can get 2k damage on auto... If you are a full build Caitlyn headshot critting a caster minion.

The only adcs who have pulled off that shit were vayne pre Q+R nerf with a cheesy lethality crit build on other squishes.

Go do a standard game on someone like xayah, jinx, sivir, ashe, vayne and show me that 2k crit on a champion.

Crits do a lot, but exaggeration does nothing to help the case of getting things fixed properly.

Jhin can actually do it with item 3124 stacks.

With that being said are people exaggerating a bit on the exact number, possibly however, ADCs AAs doing more than AP abilities that cost mana is not an exaggeration, that is just a fact.

There was a reason people were taking Ninja Tabis bot when the item itself didn't see any changes before people started taking it bot lane. The reason is pretty freaking obvious that AD is doing too much damage.

AlicetariaApr 18, 201815 votes

Literally from my match history, Cait with 100% crit chance and not even a full inventory, she dealt 2.4k damage per auto attack, I was 8 kills more fed than her and she dealt more damage overall than me by 20k, enjoy:

https://i.imgur.com/qggvBIf.png?2 https://i.imgur.com/kYCDkIi.png?1

The OasisApr 19, 20182 votes

Supposedly we can look forward to some marksman itemization changes around 8.10 or 8.11

The Bearded BardApr 18, 201815 votes

Because they get all the love and mages get all the nerfs. They literally said spellvamp is too OP for AP then made an AD spellvamp item.

Sp33d Zer0Apr 18, 20184 votes

Mages also have a spell vamp item item 3146 heals ALL damage

The Bearded BardApr 18, 201817 votes

You insult mages everywhere by telling us that gunblade is a mage item lmfao. If anything it's an AP assassin item, but not a single mage is gonna waste the gold on that item.

CasterGilgameshApr 18, 20187 votes

lets not forget item 3072 was always good on almost every ad champion while the one ap spell vamp item was niche and also kinda a support item to give Ap to other mages

ThilmerApr 19, 20184 votes

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Because they get all the love and mages get all the nerfs. They literally said spellvamp is too OP for AP then made an AD spellvamp item.

Let's not forget that lifesteal is strong as fuck, but apparently that's not a problem, you know.