ive gotten to the point that im perm banning tryndamere every single game

Its All Skillzz·Jun 1, 2018·40 votes·14,617 views

I seriously can not stand this fking champion, conquerer has made him way over the top and even if he feeds his ass off he can rush tiamat and just split push all game and take down towers cause everyone knows they made of toilet paper, oh you are hitting him while he is taking the tower, oh to bad he has 5 second i cant die button to cont taking down your tower, and can just do this over an over even worst if hes fed he will dive an kill your squishies and later on your tanks thanks to true damage from conquerer, he is in need of a serious rework and do not let certaantlyt be the one to do it.

56 Comments

BLIGHTBRINGERJun 1, 201819 votes

take down towers cause everyone knows they made of toilet paper

LMAO, true tho.

SnowplosionJun 2, 201811 votes

Such exaggeration about tower strength. My toilet paper is much too strong to be compared to a tower.

BLIGHTBRINGERJun 2, 20182 votes

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/7/76/LoL_Facebook_Icon_15.png/revision/latest?cb=20161029213800

LOL

RainXBladeJun 2, 20182 votes

Completely true.

AirKingNeoJun 1, 20187 votes

This post reeks of personal complaints that aren't backed by statistics.

Pierce The VealJun 2, 20187 votes

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This post reeks of personal complaints that aren't backed by statistics.

People on boards tell me statistics like play rate, win rate, and ban rate don’t mean anything, sooooo

:^)

Spicy RiceJun 2, 20182 votes

They don’t most of the time because people use them individually and out of context.

For example, there could be a champ with a 100% winrate, and you might say, goddamn that’s op.

But when you put it into comext if it’s .001% pickrate, what you really get is a person who is amazing at that champ

Pierce The VealJun 2, 20183 votes

However, when you do back them up with context, the PSA’s lead people to think “statistics don’t matter this champion is broken.”

Despìca BìllJun 2, 20181 votes

This comment reeks of direct re-quotes from Riot being used as "statistics."

CHEWYARMSJun 1, 20186 votes

I do the same. He's unbearable even if behind in lane.

Its All SkillzzJun 1, 20185 votes

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I do the same. He's unbearable even if behind in lane.

which is just utter cancer to deal with, he can take towers faster than most teams can push, and if his team has 4 decent players they can clear waves while he splits your base.

zAber33Jun 1, 20185 votes

this is exactly what the ban system is designed for, banning the one champion you hate playing against, trynd might not be the best top laner overall, but if its the one you hate playing against the most then by all means ban it

Al HavocJun 2, 20182 votes

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this is exactly what the ban system is designed for, banning the one champion you hate playing against, trynd might not be the best top laner overall, but if its the one you hate playing against the most then by all means ban it

Bans shouldn't be used to ban champions you hate becasue they are op a.f, it should be used as a strategic means like "i play assasins let me ban lulu/janna"

Irelia BotJun 2, 20181 votes

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Bans shouldn't be used to ban champions you hate becasue they are op a.f, it should be used as a strategic means like "i play assasins let me ban lulu/janna"

If trynda is a problem that you can consistently not contend with he is a perfectly fine ban.

Al HavocJun 5, 20181 votes

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If trynda is a problem that you can consistently not contend with he is a perfectly fine ban.

Agreed, but i think i didn't explain my view well. I meant that is how bans _should _ be used but that isn't how they are used or really possible because there are so many ridiculous champions you need to just perma ban because of riots bad balancing.

Irelia BotJun 6, 20181 votes

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Agreed, but i think i didn't explain my view well. I meant that is how bans _should _ be used but that isn't how they are used or really possible because there are so many ridiculous champions you need to just perma ban because of riots bad balancing.

If yasuo makes you want to quit the game he is a perfectly fine ban.

If the Irelia you might be facing might be TFblade Irelia is an acceptable ban.

MLDzXnRRRJun 1, 20185 votes

Trynd is trash with the new item changes. I don't know about conqueror - every time I see endgame stats on Trynd it deals no dmg compared to PTA. As long as you don't get all-inned lvl 1-2 and 6, you should be fine.

Its All SkillzzJun 1, 20189 votes

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Trynd is trash with the new item changes. I don't know about conqueror - every time I see endgame stats on Trynd it deals no dmg compared to PTA. As long as you don't get all-inned lvl 1-2 and 6, you should be fine.

its not me who lanes vs him, i main adc or mid lane, its my fucking top laners who just feed him that make me hate playing agianst him, and even the people who stomp him, he can still be annoying split pushing menace.

GayFluffyUnicornJun 1, 20181 votes

Y people keep spreading that myth that conq deals any dmg. The large part is a simple 20% penetration. Nothing more and nothing less. Somehow people act like you get extra 20% true dmg of the dmg you deal but you just deal 20% of your dmg in true dmg. The 10-30 AD isn't really worth it. There is a reason why most people still go PTA over conq. It really just synergizes well with trynds random crits and crit in general. Jax who then deals three different instances of dmg, physical, magic and true dmg. Idk i guess yasuo was kinda good with conq and that's pretty much it. Darius because his bleed keeps it up.

SeenanJun 2, 20182 votes

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Y people keep spreading that myth that conq deals any dmg. The large part is a simple 20% penetration. Nothing more and nothing less. Somehow people act like you get extra 20% true dmg of the dmg you deal but you just deal 20% of your dmg in true dmg. The 10-30 AD isn't really worth it. There is a reason why most people still go PTA over conq. It really just synergizes well with trynds random crits and crit in general. Jax who then deals three different instances of dmg, physical, magic and true dmg. Idk i guess yasuo was kinda good with conq and that's pretty much it. Darius because his bleed keeps it up.

20% of 700 damage crits is 140 damage. You're doing 140 damage that can't be resisted against by anything other than health or shield. The other 560 damage cuts to maybe 250 damage after reductions. 250+140 not including Conqueror AD.

We're not saying it 'gives' damage other than the AD, but it lets him use his build/damage more effectively for sure.

EvilxUndertonezJun 1, 20183 votes

Just pick zilean into trynd, Kayle does well too.

eaglei3Jun 1, 20188 votes

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Just pick zilean into trynd, Kayle does well too.

Kayle? I don't know how the new item changes do on Trynd, but he could snowball too quickly on Kayle. Kayle would have a bigger impact on fights, but Trynd had the lane.

EvilxUndertonezJun 1, 20181 votes

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Kayle? I don't know how the new item changes do on Trynd, but he could snowball too quickly on Kayle. Kayle would have a bigger impact on fights, but Trynd had the lane.

na a good kayle can get it, especially if the jg provides any ganks at all.

eaglei3Jun 1, 20185 votes

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na a good kayle can get it, especially if the jg provides any ganks at all.

Jungle is a wild card for both sides. And Kayle is most likely the easier gank target as her E will push the lane.

SaiannaJun 2, 20181 votes

Considering that splitpushing Trynd with tiamat does exactly one thing: push, then I don't see the issue lol

Bob the ToastrJun 2, 20182 votes

No, he's right. Kayle is really good against trynd. One time I had to play the trynd into kayle matchup and I legit never killed her in lane and died like 2 or 3 times in lane. Even after you get your ult she just runs it out with hers. The game ended before I could dream of catching up.

IxozieIJun 2, 20182 votes

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Kayle? I don't know how the new item changes do on Trynd, but he could snowball too quickly on Kayle. Kayle would have a bigger impact on fights, but Trynd had the lane.

Kayle can't lose lane to Trynd unless you're getting camped by jung and / or you are braindead at Kayle. She can slow him and she has a movespeed boost to get away / chase. Plus she's ranged and can push roughly as fast as him. She also outscales him hardcore. She remains one of the most monstrous carries late game.

AxzariousJun 1, 20181 votes

Don't forget that a Nasus played properly and itemized correctly loves this lane as well. Usually this means maxing your Wither over your Spirit Fire. Amusingly, this reminds me of when Trynd could actually have a chance slugging it out with him before they added the Q CDR effect during his ult. Now he's got no chance.

TrollmanshipJun 2, 20183 votes

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Just pick zilean into trynd, Kayle does well too.

Neither one of those are good picks in a tryndamere lane. Kayle will die when she gets jumped on unless she manages to juke the mocking shout, and while Zilean is great vs trynd in teamfights because of his slow, he won't be able to do jack shit to stop tryndamere from pushing down the inhibitor at 10 minutes.

If you really want to cuck trynd, pick tahm kench.

Z3SleeperJun 2, 20183 votes

Just make his ult duration 2 seconds and every basic attack against a champion extend the effect by 1 second, up to 5. That way he can't just ignore people and slap towers.

InfernapeJun 2, 20183 votes

You forgot losing lane because you got RNG crit three times in a row and needed to back.

BisaknospJun 1, 20182 votes

its the same as its always been with this champ he is either roflstomping entire teams, taking 2-3 kills whenever your team fights him or you have enough cc for him to be worthless

ZullarJun 1, 20182 votes

I just played Tryn yesterday and killed everybody. 70% crit from IE is pretty nice.

If they don't have CC or peel they are dead!

TheCodeisCupCakeJun 1, 20182 votes

Same, He either gets one kill and snowballs off your coplanar with his braindead ultimate, or doesn't get one kill and snowballs off your toplanar with his braindead ultimate. Either way the Tryndamere will play a PVE game that forces you to play tower defense. You can't help your team at all or else you risk losing all 3 of your towers before your teleport to bot lane even finishes

Umery1Jun 1, 20182 votes

I'm pretty low elo (silver 5) so I'll give my two cents for what its worth. I've never personally had any difficulty with him, mainly because he isn't actually good right now. If you want to fight against him my suggestion would be to make sure your team has some hard cc. (as in point and click).

Also a problem I've seen in my elo is that if split pushing is the problem your response should be to force an objective rather than try to counter the split push by sending someone down there, either that or just keep the waves pushed so they don't come close to your tower)

GripaAviaraJun 5, 20181 votes

That's because a lot of tryndameres play for kills not for win.

Sex Crazed EveJun 2, 20182 votes

is this a copy pasta

Ungrateful ThugJun 2, 20182 votes

It's not even the fact that he's op. It's the fact that unless you have a comp that can shut down splitters, then you have to babysit any lane that he goes to for the ENTIRE GAME. The only time you have to leave lane is if he's dead, but as soon as he's alive you have to go back to being on Tryndamere Patrol. And god help you if you can't 1v1 him.

Leto GTJun 1, 20181 votes

You make me wanna play him. I see often trynd jungle. It looks to work decently enough.

KlydeFrogJun 1, 20181 votes

Bro if he is that easy and such play him and do that

Sunbae IreliaJun 2, 20181 votes

It's fun to play Irelia into him. If they don't have much experience in the matchup, he won't ult until he's very low, but your q will finish him off before he does. But yeah he's generally really annoying...

MLDzXnRRRJun 2, 20181 votes

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It's fun to play Irelia into him. If they don't have much experience in the matchup, he won't ult until he's very low, but your q will finish him off before he does. But yeah he's generally really annoying...

Irelia is probably the lowest winrate champ in the game vs Trynda (or was before the item new changes - now I see Trynda and Yasuo players are losing in ranked).

ElixorsJun 2, 20181 votes

Teemo

French CourtesanJun 2, 20181 votes

tfw you waste ban on shit tier champion because you cant buy tabis.

IainG10Jun 2, 20182 votes

Doesn't stop him ulting towers down

Irelia BotJun 2, 20181 votes

Ban trynda if in top and Kaisa if anywhere else.

WitchQueen AnnieJun 2, 20181 votes

Renekton

Ninja Tabis rush. Then run your usual bruiser build.

Play aggressively but without pushing... from level 3 onwards keep using dash combos to poke him down. Make him waste Qs to heal and make him struggle to build fury. Always keep 1 dash for escape.

Don't Ult unless he Ults.

He shouldn't be able to get past you and shouldn't have enough HP to all in you.

You should generally win.

SaiannaJun 2, 20181 votes

clear waves as they come so trynda can't push to your turret. If you picked a champion that is downright incapable of doing anything to trynda, then by blamind him you blame your lack of IQ (sorry, but that's how it goes. If you punch a wall and you aren't Bruce Lee, don't whine about walls being too tough).

Secondly, it's not that much of Tryndas fault but items and META, that makes him pretty much useless with anything other than splitpushing. Does he need a rework? Somewhat yes, but there's like 90% chance the rework will ruin the champion.

Just learn how to counterpick a splitpusher or how to deal with one.

This rant thread is kinda silly considering your nick lol

Noor SakataJun 3, 20181 votes

I really agree , forget about how stronger he is , the fact he will perma split push in silver/gold while your team doesn't follow and you are playing a squishy , he will dive and kill you , and you can't kill him alone , he will keep taking inhibitors even if he will die 10 times

GripaAviaraJun 5, 20181 votes

I'm glad people are starting to realise he is a very toxic champion combined with the new true damage galore