Can anyone even defend the broken state of Graves?

Melledoneus·Apr 19, 2017·5 votes·455 views

He gets a Caufield's hammer and he's chunking people's health down. He gets his jungle item and he becomes an assassin. He gets Death's Dance and he becomes a drain tank.

All while having safe clear, high clear speed, good mobility, incredible durability, decent range on his abilities, and a "fuck your vision" zone. And it's not like his cooldowns are absurd, either.

His weaknesses? Oh, he's "short-ranged" and his true grit no longer gives him MR (not like he can't build a Maw and laugh his ass off as he ~~one~~six-shots your mages).

I don't like many ADCs amd the current state of BoRK, but nothing comes close in absurdity to the broken mess known as Graves. Season 4 Akali comes to mind, except rather than a level 6 powerspike it's a 1100 gold one.

Somebody please explain to me why this madness is allowed to be in the game.

11 Comments

Brain Errör 404Apr 19, 20173 votes

He's an adc, melee, bruiser assassin drain tank juggernaut that more than doubles the damage the closer you get to him. I don't see the problem.

GULAG 4 UApr 19, 20171 votes

What is a "melee"?

MelledoneusApr 19, 20173 votes

Oh, he's dealing too much damage? Let's take away his MR.

Classic Riot.

KONO RUBICK DAApr 19, 20172 votes

you're lucky enough that riot heard your crybaby tears and nerfed him

47% win rate 13% pick rate nothing is wrong with graves

time to ACTUALLY get good now instead of complaining

greekvandaLApr 19, 20171 votes

Orianna item 3165 oneshots kids never runs oom unless she has autism. how bow dah? skillcap? yeh sure lul.

As for Graves it's rather easy pick something like Elise and rape him in the jungle. if he falls behind he is almost as bad as Lee sin. Havent seen a single graves player do good against my Elise or Kha'zix nor in diamond or plat or master. And now with the E changes he can actually be killed off by mages cause ik better than most since i spam him to pubstomp that he was unkillable pre true grit nerfs. He is strong but not broken.

If you want broken take a look at Lucian beeing played in eevry game and pretty much stomping most ppl. Or Ivern who presses 2 buttons and takes your camp in 2.5 seconds and u cant contest it or him perma cc'ing kids with 4 sec cd 2 second snare that gapcloses.

Want me to talk about Lulu ? 2.25 sec disable in a game where full tank malphite dies in 5 seconds late game come? Or her Slow and its fucked up hitbox?

Chew on a new gum this one got old. Graves is strong not broken simple as that

PapaGreg21Apr 19, 20171 votes

Elise is literally the only champion in the jungle that can compete against a Graves. He is better than the other 95% of junglers.

greekvandaLApr 19, 20171 votes

well i guess i'm a god at jungling cause i most of the time faceroll on graves players.

PapaGreg21Apr 20, 20171 votes

Let me guess. You probably spam lee sin, and Elise, the only 2 people that counter him and think he stinks because of it. Try playing the other 30 junglers against him for a few months

greekvandaLApr 20, 20171 votes

you can check out what i play tbh most winrates have gone down ever since i quit and started trolling after dropping d1. I mostly toplane and jungle as secondary i still beat the shit out of most d4-d2 junglers.