What if we made Teemo's Q a skillshot?

Warlord Rhinark·Aug 19, 2017·3 votes·986 views

Maybe he will become less oppressive in lane? It's just a thought.

10 Comments

zepdrixAug 19, 20171 votes

Ehhh I dunno.

I would greatly be in favor of Pantheon's Q becoming a skill shot. I find that to be way more oppressive.

But Teemo's blinding dart? I dunno, I feel like that's his thing. It's really only oppressive if he's building AP Teemo. And that's only in certain match-ups.

Warlord RhinarkAug 19, 20172 votes

This is more of laning phase type of thing but I would say Teemo's Q is oppressive because it limits your ability to last hit effectively in lane. Since it's a point and click with a fairly low cooldown, a fairly high base damage and a fairly high scaling, there is no counterplay to this ability. If it was a skill shot, you can both hide behind your minions for them to block it and you can dodge it if you have the reaction time.

######And I'm all for Pantheon's Q to become a skill shot.

zepdrixAug 19, 20171 votes

The mana cost of blinding dart is outrageously high (and rightly so). So resistances and sustain usually do well against his mana pool.

Certain mages can give him a lot of trouble: Ryze, Mordekaiser, Lissandra, Rumble.

And Jax is pretty strong against the little rat. He blinds you for a moment, but you're dodging all his autos for the same duration with your counter strike.

So I wouldn't say there is NO counter-play to blinding dart. But, yes, as you've clearly explained, there is no dodging the ability. So it requires other planning.

It's funny cause Teemo used to be the champion that everyone loved to hate. And then Yasuo was born...

I can't even remember why I hated on Teemo. What a lovable little creature he is. :D

Yasuo ....... <.<

SirTeemoMushroomAug 19, 20171 votes

what? lol .. man , it's the only way to protect him self in battle , and in current meta all champions in the roaster counter him hard .

Warlord RhinarkAug 19, 20171 votes

If someone is actually using basic attacks against you that means they are standing still. If they are standing still, you should be able to hit them with your Q regardless of it being a skill shot or a point-and-click ability.

I haven't said anything about the blind duration being decreased or the range and mana cost being changed so the result of being hit with the Teemo Q would still have the same result. And could you give some examples of champions who counter Teemo AND how exactly they counter him? Last time I checked, Yorick was one of the only counters to Teemo.

SirTeemoMushroomAug 19, 20173 votes

it's just stupid idea. move on

and by the way, the "fact" with yorick , makes your post even more ridiculous because you have no idea about teemo's gameplay and counters .

Warlord RhinarkAug 19, 20171 votes

So could you actually list some fucking counters like I requested instead of berating me and calling me stupid and ridiculous? I never said it was a "fact" that Yorick counters Teemo. I just said that last time I checked, he did.

BeatzBoyFTWAug 19, 20172 votes

Sion E to slow him down. Hit him with a fully charged Q, or before Teemo tries to escape your Q margin. W for self-protection.

Urgot Shoot Q on his predictable position as he tries to blind you. E onto him & start massacre-ing him with your W. Properly note your position to fully use your shotgun passive.

Darius Instantly go forward at him as he tries to Q you & just cast your own Q to heal back the damage from Teemo's Q. After the blind duration is gone, pull him in, and then AA-W-AA-AA etc. Depending on the enemy wave, you should easily win the trade with your Bleed stacks.

Gangplank Spam Q on Teemo whenever a chance is give to you. Lining up barrages of barrels from a distance can easily damages Teemo without any counter-risk, assuming your Q reflex on destroying the barrel is faster than Teemo's. Got blinded? You have a fucking orange, and a Doran's Ring (cz who still buys Doran's Blade on a Gangplank).

Vladimir Q away any damages Teemo does to you. (Does this guy even need any explanation...?)

Galio Build up more MR to power-up your passive damage, especially Mercury Thread. Poke from a distance with your Q, while trying to cs with your AA from a distant minion in order to take advantage of your wide passive radius. When Teemo's blinds are down, chain up your usual combo by E-AA-W-AA-Q-AA. (or swap the W & Q arrangement to avoid further counter-trade after the combo's finished)

DrMundo Q safely from a distance. When you're at average distance towards Teemo & the enemy minion waves thinned out, Q him & starting ham-ming with your WE abilities. Be reminded that you get bonus MR from spamming the Health Cost from your abilities & taking Magic Damage. Ult if you have to.

Garen Just as the moment Teemo shoots Q at you, quickly click W to reduce the Blind Duration. After that, rush in with Q & E towards Teemo. Recommended to build some MR as it's not mostly recommended to max W in early levels.

As almost everyone said, Teemo isn't really a big of a deal right now. Him being oppressive is almost nothing more than an ancient meme, although it may still apply to certain pure-melee champions or those who has 0 experience in top lane.

SirTeemoMushroomAug 19, 20171 votes

Ahri Akali Aatrox Anivia Annie Azir Darius Draven Ekko Ezreal Fiora Fizz Galio Gangplank Garen Gnar Gragas Heimerdinger Illaoi Irelia JarvanIV Jax Jayce Karma Katarina Kayn Lissandra MasterYi Nasus Pantheon and these are just some

Pokemonred200Aug 19, 20171 votes

If teemo Q became a skillshot, I would be fine the damage becoming AOE, even if the CC wasn't. Like a certain Quinn , especially pre-rework when she had Teemo's Q on a skillshot but the damage and CC were both AOE