why even have him on the roster when there is no limit to teams having the trinket
I'd really like to get a free item at the start of the game that lets me remove the effectiveness of a malphite ultimate or vaynes W.
RageQ21 votesYou know they have red trinkets just for a small bit of counter playability, it's not like Shaco will get completely destroyed, only his boxes will take a toll so if your going AP well then too bad for you. If you're ad then you can fairly easily play around red trinkets and still get to the back line.
Unreformed Shaco1 votesAs soon as a teamfight starts, support uses red trinket.
this is 10 seconds that shaco cannot get to the backline.
10 seconds later the AD uses it. 20 seconds Shaco can't reliably attack the backline.
He relies on jumping out of stealth and bursting the unsuspecting opponent.
Red trinket removes that surprise, allows the target to run away while the support uses all their non click to target CC.
RageQ21 votesAs soon as a teamfight starts, support uses red trinket.
this is 10 seconds that shaco cannot get to the backline.
10 seconds later the AD uses it. 20 seconds Shaco can't reliably attack the backline.
He relies on jumping out of stealth and bursting the unsuspecting opponent.
Red trinket removes that surprise, allows the target to run away while the support uses all their non click to target CC.
If you're shaco you should be sitting around the inner mid lane jungle paths.
it not like you immediately have to initiate in combat whenever, you should set up boxes (10-15 cd mind you) to let your allies escape if they so need to.
You shouldn't be going in to a sweeper in the first place.
If you cant do anything, stick in the front line and wait for an opportunity.
If you find that every single enemy has a sweeper then just don't engage, peel for the adc's and let them carry the teamfight. If anything the enemy shouldn't be using sweepers if you're undetectable in the jungle waiting for opportunities, if you are detected then too bad that's your own fault for now checking for wards and you got punished for it.
Unreformed Shaco1 votes"Let your team 4v5 every fight because the enemy team used their free item"
RageQ21 votes"Let your team 4v5 every fight because the enemy team used their free item"
"If your team isn't dumb enough to stay back and not fight."
Unreformed Shaco1 votesBullshit, Shaco isn't an initiator.
Your team starts the fight, enemy support uses trinket after your tank has gone in, its now 4v5, or its a 5v5 and shaco loses a lot of his kit.
RageQ21 votesBullshit, Shaco isn't an initiator.
Your team starts the fight, enemy support uses trinket after your tank has gone in, its now 4v5, or its a 5v5 and shaco loses a lot of his kit.
I never said he was? Shaco is more of a diver, one who comes unexpectedly with the sole objective of taking out a carry or two so your team has a large advantage
DrCyanide1 votesDidn't they remove red ticket revealing Shaco?
dolphinosplash241 votesDidn't they remove red ticket revealing Shaco?
They remove the disabling trap mechanic from the game. otherwise the red trinket works as it always has
Unreformed Shaco1 votesThe big red silhouette kinda makes surprise and stealth worthless.
MaeDoSan1 votesAgreed give shaco absolute immunity from detection but also bring down his insane damage so that it is fairly balanced for both sides
Unreformed Shaco1 votesHis damage is pretty mediocre for an assassin.
MaeDoSan1 voteslol wat , agreed i couldn't feel that backstab crit
Unreformed Shaco1 votesBackstab decieve crit does no more damage than Cancer'Zix Isolate taste.
MaeDoSan1 votesWho said he doesnt do too much himself Point is shaco easily has more stealth capabilities compared to khazix If you dont appreciate that and only care about the burst then you are better off playing khazix